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    For my services, the Govt pays my employer 4 times what my employer pays me.
    The woman I share an office with makes 1/3 more than I do for the same position. However, she's been with the company for 30 years and I have 4 years.
    These facts were unknown to me when I accepted the position.

    As Cav posted, I get paid exactly what I was told I would be paid when I took the job - plus annual raises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I don't discuss what I make with anyone but my employer and my wife. I've found that discussing wages with co-workers does nothing but get you or the other person wound-up. Whatever my co-workers make was negotiated between them and my employer. It's none of my business. What I make is none of their business.

    Agree. The ones who push it at work, are the ones you try avoiding. As they seem to be the ones always stirring shit up Because they are not appreciated by the manager.
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    Fascinating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...rker-week.html

    btw, that chick is cute -- why would anyone be rude to her!? I'll have to send this to my sis-in-law. She's an IT recruiter who works a lot with Indians. I wonder if she has experienced this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Fascinating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...rker-week.html

    btw, that chick is cute -- why would anyone be rude to her!? I'll have to send this to my sis-in-law. She's an IT recruiter who works a lot with Indians. I wonder if she has experienced this.
    Perhaps she should include her photo in her signature line.


    I receive job notices almost daily. I usually delete the ones that are written poorly - often by a recruiter who's first language is not English. If I'm not busy, I sometimes reply with a poorly written response. It amuses me.
    I respond favorably to the ones that are written well, no matter the gender or name origin of the recruiter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Fascinating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...rker-week.html

    btw, that chick is cute -- why would anyone be rude to her!? I'll have to send this to my sis-in-law. She's an IT recruiter who works a lot with Indians. I wonder if she has experienced this.
    A female coworker and friend has experienced blatant dismissive and rude behaviour, mostly from off-shore males, in several accounts. So much so in one very large, top tier financial services provider, that she now refuses any project assignments for that client.

    While she does have a bit of a chip on her shoulder and can be less than tactful at times with both clients and coworkers, she is far superior technically to most of her peer coworkers. I think some of the attitude comes from her past treatment and she tends to be very rigid to the point of it coming across as "coldness" or even dismissiveness on her part as well. I believe the whole experience bubble she has endured has made her somewhat jaded and bitter and it can sometimes show through.
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    I think more than anything, the pay difference can be attributed to differences in assertiveness between employees.... Their individual level of assertiveness, and willingness to ask for or negotiate wages when they started, has a tremendous impact over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawin View Post
    I think more than anything, the pay difference can be attributed to differences in assertiveness between employees.... Their individual level of assertiveness, and willingness to ask for or negotiate wages when they started, has a tremendous impact over time.
    I think you may be on to something....

    WASHINGTON—After decades spent battling gender discrimination and inequality in the workplace, the feminist movement underwent a high-level shake-up last month, when 53-year-old management consultant Peter "Buck" McGowan took over as new chief of the worldwide initiative for women's rights.

    McGowan, who now oversees the group's day-to-day operations, said he "couldn't be happier" to bring his ambition, experience, and no-nonsense attitude to his new role as the nation's top feminist.


    "All the feminist movement needed to do was bring on someone who had the balls to do something about this glass ceiling business," said McGowan, who quickly closed the 23.5 percent gender wage gap by "making a few calls to the big boys upstairs." "In the world of gender identity and empowered female sexuality, it's all about who you know."
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    "You can't waste time pussyfooting around with protests and getting all emotional about a bunch of irrelevant details," McGowan said. "If you want to enjoy equal rights, you have to have a real man-to-man chat with the people in charge until you can hammer out some more equitable custody laws."

    "And don't get me started on how disorganized and scatterbrained their old fundraising methods were," McGowan added. "Let's just say the movement never really had a head for numbers."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I don't discuss what I make with anyone but my employer and my wife. I've found that discussing wages with co-workers does nothing but get you or the other person wound-up. Whatever my co-workers make was negotiated between them and my employer. It's none of my business. What I make is none of their business.
    Well said!

    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    ...I get paid exactly what I was told I would be paid when I took the job - plus annual raises.
    This says it all. If you didn't like the pay when you were offered the job, why did you take the job? Who cares what others make, prove to the boss you deserve a raise.
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    This is just a way to further the socialist agenda. I am frankly shocked that any women actually feel that they still aren't being treated fairly in the work place. Many of you have brought up great points explaining how complicated pay rates are based on the many factors that affect them. The government would only make a mess of things trying to regulate it. If you don't like the way you are treated or payed, get a better job, or make yourself worth the pay you want. What is there to protest about?

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