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    Here’s why I don’t like Dove for doing this, they are willing to pour gas on a fire, to promulgate an issue, right or wrong, that has nothing to do with soap.

    Activists pick an issue effecting .001% of the population pepper us until a significant number of us start commenting that it is odd behavior. Then they point a finger and say see how many phobic people hate us for no reason, we need special protection in the form of laws forcing everybody to embrace our behavior. And all the people that haven’t paid any attention and don’t care either way finally stand up and side with the odd behavior because all those negatively commenting are just being mean for no rational reason. Along the way, they even get a few companies convinced that all this meanness is a real problem. This method has worked every time activists have tried it, I doubt it will go away any time soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Agree with their lifestyle or not. IMO this kind of outrage is like those who protest over Chik-Fil-A coming to town.

    Seriously who gives a shit how someone lives, if it doesn't directly affect you and your lifestyle.

    Can you sleep at night or does (insert lifestyle and their hobbies) keep you awake at night?

    Does their (insert life style and hobbies) determine how you go about your daily routine?

    Does their (insert lifestyle and hobbies) make one feel the need for a safe space?


    When these men force their way into my locker rooms, bathrooms, and sports..it affects me.

    When this commercial comes on the TV and my child sees it, it affects me.

    When there are way less actual men for women to choose from for marraige, it affects me.

    When my church will be forced into marrying these people, even though we believe it wrong for us to do so, it affects me.

    A few years ago, you may have been able to use this argument but I don't think it works any more.
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    Umm, pretty sure those men who feel like women largely weren't available for marriage anyway, and if they did marry, would be some kind of Manchurian Candidate let down in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Agree with their lifestyle or not. IMO this kind of outrage is like those who protest over Chik-Fil-A coming to town.

    Seriously who gives a shit how someone lives, if it doesn't directly affect you and your lifestyle.

    Can you sleep at night or does (insert lifestyle and their hobbies) keep you awake at night?

    Does their (insert life style and hobbies) determine how you go about your daily routine?

    Does their (insert lifestyle and hobbies) make one feel the need for a safe space?


    When these men force their way into my locker rooms, bathrooms, and sports..it affects me.

    When this commercial comes on the TV and my child sees it, it affects me.

    When there are way less actual men for women to choose from for marraige, it affects me.

    When my church will be forced into marrying these people, even though we believe it wrong for us to do so, it affects me.

    A few years ago, you may have been able to use this argument but I don't think it works any more.
    Your church cannot be forced into marrying people who by definition cannot be married, even if it cowers in fear at a .gov jackboot and proceeds with the facade. Ontologically, they are no more married than I am Shaq (which is to say, decidedly not). However, otherwise, I concur 100%.
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    Wife took our kids to McDonalds yesterday for the oldest to play in the play area and grab a snack...

    She emailed me this at work:
    "McDonalds went from typically low class weirdness to frighteningly creepy pretty quickly.

    There was a little girl here with two grandmothers. However, one was a cross dressing man. And it took me a second to figure it out as the woman grandma was talking to me and I didn't see the man grandma at first. Poor little girl being exposed to that. And you could see everyone else here slowly realizing things and collecting their kids and leaving once man grandma was amongst the kids playing with his granddaughter. But they left and we're still here.

    Ick. Awful. "
    When people are mentally ill, their BS *does* affect society, particularly when we reach a level where this sort of stuff has legislative approbation and protection and they take it public.

    Grandpa-"Gram, the Glam"-Whatever is mentally ill, along with Bruce Jenner, etc. This cannot be stated emphatically enough. Worse, when we as a society play along with it, we are engaging in approving mental illness as reality rather than fantasy. We are thus accessories to it. That is not love. That's not even tolerance. That's participation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Umm, pretty sure those men who feel like women largely weren't available for marriage anyway, and if they did marry, would be some kind of Manchurian Candidate let down in the end.
    Irving, I think our society is being destroyed. I really believe these people are injured human beings who need help and healing. When we encourage their behavior we are breaking down the ideas of what is natural. We are confusing people and breaking down the structure that we call society. How confusing it must be to grow up in the world today. When the adults lack a moral compass. How we raise our boys and girls makes a difference in how they see themselves as adults.

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    I was pointing out that people with a mental illness should not be considered marriage material, by your standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Your church cannot be forced into marrying people who by definition cannot be married, even if it cowers in fear at a .gov jackboot and proceeds with the facade. Ontologically, they are no more married than I am Shaq (which is to say, decidedly not). However, otherwise, I concur 100%.
    We have gone beyond the point of live and let live in our society. The alphabet squad will not stop until they force everyone to participate in their lifestyle. Any resistance will be attacked until crushed.
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    Another good Fred Reed article - somewhat related to the thread comments:

    https://fredoneverything.org/sally-c...ird-but-maybe/

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    Sally Cone Hits the Dating Scene: Kind of Weird, but Maybe….
    Posted on May 11, 2017 by Fred Reed

    Oh Lord, where is my Haldol? Recently I saw online a documentary on sex robots. The reporteress, a short-haired woman seething with quiet indignation, Viewed With Alarm the very idea. Progress is rapid on these love assistants, she said. They move. Some do, anyway. They talk, but not too much. Before long they will have skin-temperature silicone. Today we have all those deplorable men sitting home, lonely and isolated, choking their chickens and pondering suicide. Soon they will instead be rocking and rolling with Robo-Barbie. This worried her. She said.

    If this be true, the why, one wonders, do men want sexbots? Aren’t there already women all over the place at skin temperature? Sez me, it’s because women have lived too long in a monopoly economy and so let down quality. It used to be that men had jobs and money, and women had that, so they married to let each get some of what the other had. The woman had to be agreeable as a selling point. Now women have jobs and don’t need men, or to be pleasant. Some are nice anyway, but it’s no longer a design feature. Of course they often end up old and alone with a cat somewhere on upper Connecticut Avenue, but they don’t figure this out until too late. Anyway, they stopped being agreeable. They learned from feminists that everything wrong in their lives was the fault of men.

    It is a real problem: American women are inoculated from birth with angry misandry insisting that men are dolts, loutish, irresponsible, and only want sex. (To which a response might be, “Uh…What else have you got?”)

    Of course, in some cases women, real ones, offer a lot. Even in America, women exist with intelligence, a sense of humor, maturity, and a recognition that marriage isn’t a guarantee of uninterrupted bliss. Such women are a delight, both of them. The problem is knowing when you have one. They all talk a good show as long as things go well. When they don’t she gets a lawyer, the kids, child support, and moves to Okinawa with a colonel she met in a meat bar. You never see your kids again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    We have gone beyond the point of live and let live in our society. The alphabet squad will not stop until they force everyone to participate in their lifestyle. Any resistance will be attacked until crushed.
    Yes. I said this in post 35: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/162400-...=1#post2070330
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