USCCA and the NRA

[mattiooo]

I'm probably late to the game, but I see that the NRA "uninvited" USCCA from their tradeshow (they had a booth reservation and NRA canceled it), and then a short time later announced they will be unveiling a competing product.

Anyone know the details? Seems like a crappy move to me, but I'm only getting the USCCA side of the story despite being both a USCCA member and an NRA lifetime member.

[Zundfolge]

https://www.nracarryguard.com/

[mattiooo]

Yeah. The USCCA published this comparison chart:
https://d3rmvquxnxa9wt.cloudfront.ne...risonChart.pdf

[Irving]

If Chubb takes care of members for self defense claims like they take care of their insureds on home owner's claims, then sign me up!

Edit, the comparison chart is compelling toward USCCA. However, if I have more than one fire arm self defense issue in a year, then I think I need re-evaluate some life decisions.

[mattiooo]

If Chubb takes care of members for self defense claims like they take care of their insureds on home owner's claims, then sign me up!
Edit, the comparison chart is compelling toward USCCA. However, if I have more than one fire arm self defense issue in a year, then I think I need re-evaluate some life decisions.

If there were a like button - you'd have gotten one.

Several of the things in the comparison are irrelevant, including whether NRA membership is included or when you get your free magazine......but many of them, if accurate, are important.

Again, I'm just looking for balanced info since I'm essentially getting one side of the story.

[funkymonkey1111]

Where's uscca's comparison to the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network?

[mattiooo]

Where's uscca's comparison to the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network?

I'm sure they put this together in direct response to what has happened. There are at least 6 similar products I'm aware of including, US Law Shield and CCW Safe. I don't think they've built a comparison to every competitor.

I like ACLDN too. I joined them a few years ago first. Especially with Massad Ayoob as part of their organization and legal team. I'm just part of USCCA as an affiliate instructor.

[Great-Kazoo]

Where's uscca's comparison to the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network?

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/161050-Insurance

[JohnnyEgo]

If Chubb takes care of members for self defense claims like they take care of their insureds on home owner's claims, then sign me up!

Edit, the comparison chart is compelling toward USCCA. However, if I have more than one fire arm self defense issue in a year, then I think I need re-evaluate some life decisions.

If Chubb is providing the back-end, that would make me feel more comfortable as well. Primarily because they provide other specialty liability products, are no stranger to the business, and the coverage probably follows some ISO derivative so you know exactly how it works. And I have no concerns about their solvency or how to go at their regulator. Without knowing more about the other tailored liability coverage products out there, I'd pick one backed by a major insurer in the specialty liability business over one that wasn't, even if the competitor offered broader claims of coverage or a free hat.

[Fentonite]

If Chubb is providing the back-end, that would make me feel more comfortable as well. Primarily because they provide other specialty liability products, are no stranger to the business, and the coverage probably follows some ISO derivative so you know exactly how it works. And I have no concerns about their solvency or how to go at their regulator. Without knowing more about the other tailored liability coverage products out there, I'd pick one backed by a major insurer in the specialty liability business over one that wasn't, even if the competitor offered broader claims of coverage or a free hat.

I dunno. 80% payout on the back end, and only if a not-guilty verdict, seems like they're not really incentivized to help you win, in fact, just the opposite. The 100% up-front payout from USCCA (with broader coverage) actually feels more like they're in your corner to win it, not just collect a premium. But I'm pissed I never got a free hat.