Firearms Freedom Act Legislation Across the Country

[Irving]

I never said that drugs are inalienable. I was suggesting that since firearm rights will be affected by this bill, that canvasing the dispensaries is the right thing to do.

You can't be against big government, and want drugs to stay illegal at the same time without being a hypocrite.

Lastly, illegal drugs only make more money for a select few individuals. Legalized drugs would bring much, much more money into a community than illegal ones would. I can't think of a better economic stimulus than the legalization of drugs.

[jc121]

why not legalize any drug like pot. I think the feds do not want to legalize it as all the money they make from locking folks up and everything else they get like kickback to all the judges uncles and nephews and who ever else give rehab classe sand everything else would be back on wellfare again.

plus smoking pot causes you to eat more and sleep more and it causes you to lose your train o

[Bailey Guns]

plus smoking pot causes you to eat more and sleep more and it causes you to lose your train o

Dude! I'm gonna put some pot and deep-fried bacon bits in my Dinty Moore...I'll never stop eating it!

[DOC]

Legalize Freedom! Nuff said.

[GunTroll]

I'm an inalienable rights sympathizer!

Sorry if I am wrong but what should I have taken from this statement? Excuse me if I misunderstood you.

You can't be against big government, and want drugs to stay illegal at the same time without being a hypocrite.

Lastly, illegal drugs only make more money for a select few individuals. Legalized drugs would bring much, much more money into a community than illegal ones would. I can't think of a better economic stimulus than the legalization of drugs.

What the FAQ? Are you serious? Hypocrite??? Come on now! Making drugs legal won't stop big government. Gives them the power to tax and sell permits, etc. I guess I just live in a world (my world) that believes drugs should stay in the shadows. Never out in daylight. Look at Europe. Relaxed drug laws there and their government runs everything! You want that? I know you'll come back with an example of how I'm short sighted but still??? Not to mention my religious views sways my decision in this matter. Anything before God is an idol and there for sinning. Don't have to understand that but I believe it so.

A select few? Like.....? Personel property is confiscated. Fines. You think that lines the pockets of the cops, State elected officals, FED oficials?

[Irving]

I don't blame you for taking my inalienable rights comments the wrong way, I was being unclear on purpose.

You are totally right about Europe having both legalized drugs and too much government.

I never said that drug use should be encouraged though. I personally think that social norms will always keep drug use down. Take......a swingers club for example. It's not illegal, but they don't exactly advertise.

I'm still going to start calling you a collaborator every time you call me a liberal hippy sympathizer though.

[theGinsue]

I've never done pot or any of the other big bad drugs out there - except alcohol. I must admit that, in college, I abused that drug.

...I guess I should have elaborated on what I meant by 'tax it' because I would like to see 100% of the $ seen from this taxation to go to education or something that has gotten over looked over the years that we can all benefit from in the long run.

That sounds like a good idea on the outside, but there is a serious flaw in that thinking. You've failed to consider the fiscal games that our governments (local, country, state, and federal) like to play. Many years ago, in Missouri, for example, the citizens voted in favor of the lottery and riverboat gambling. The voters were told that all of the revenue generated would (by law) go to education; and it does - lots of money. BUT (there's always a big but; isn't there?!)... the revenue being generated falls far short of the tax dollars that were already going to support education throughout the state. Missouri, seeing all of the new income that was coming in for educ., decided to re-direct those other tax dollars that USED to go to educ, leaving the "children" worse off than they had been before gambling was allowed. Of course, this is the same type of thing that has happened with the Federal Soc Sec dollars but that's another story. I suspect that the same thing would happen if money was generated by pot and designated for education.

...I guess I just live in a world (my world) that believes drugs should stay in the shadows. Never out in daylight... ...Not to mention my religious views sways my decision in this matter. Anything before God is an idol and there for sinning.

GunTroll, these two views are exactly my feelings too.

[Jer]

That sounds like a good idea on the outside, but there is a serious flaw in that thinking. You've failed to consider the fiscal games that our governments (local, country, state, and federal) like to play. Many years ago, in Missouri, for example, the citizens voted in favor of the lottery and riverboat gambling. The voters were told that all of the revenue generated would (by law) go to education; and it does - lots of money. BUT (there's always a big but; isn't there?!)... the revenue being generated falls far short of the tax dollars that were already going to support education throughout the state. Missouri, seeing all of the new income that was coming in for educ., decided to re-direct those other tax dollars that USED to go to educ, leaving the "children" worse off than they had been before gambling was allowed. Of course, this is the same type of thing that has happened with the Federal Soc Sec dollars but that's another story. I suspect that the same thing would happen if money was generated by pot and designated for education.

Sounds like some stupid people in office with bad ideas. Seems like that mistake has already been made and I would hope that others would learn a lesson from that. You can't just make a blanket statement saying that it would probably happen again just because someone else effed it up before. That's no way to make progress.

[Jer]

Not to mention my religious views sways my decision in this matter. Anything before God is an idol and there for sinning. Don't have to understand that but I believe it so.

This is not a good reason IMO. Too much harm has been done to far too many countries in the name of religion. I have my beliefs and views too but who am I to push those onto other people who don't believe the same way? Seems to me that's exactly why this country was founded to begin with.

[theGinsue]

This is not a good reason IMO. Too much harm has been done to far too many countries in the name of religion. I have my beliefs and views too but who am I to push those onto other people who don't believe the same way? Seems to me that's exactly why this country was founded to begin with.

I believe that you misunderstood me, and possibly GunTroll too. My religious views mean that --> I <-- won't be doing drugs, but (while I may privately disagree with it) I won't tell someone else how they should live their life. I do believe that if if person is doing drugs (including pot) that there is no reason to either make it public knowledge.