Firearms Freedom Act Legislation Across the Country

[DOC]

Is this the bill that has to do with interstate trade? If so I'd like more information about it, because I think I have a way to help get it passed.

Well tell us already Mr. Sturtle!?

[Irving]

Well, basically it's just petitioning to all the medical marijuana dispensaries in the state. They keep having problems from being legal by the state, but then being raided by Federal Agencies. A lot of these places are just trying to be legitimate businesses, pay taxes, contribute to the community, blah, blah, blah, and even self regulate before the state jumps in with stuff that they don't like.

Since this law basically has to do with intrastate commerce, you'd think that anything produced in the state, and sold only to residents, would be both legal, and unregulated by the Feds, just like what Montana is trying to do with guns.

Right now it is difficult to get insurance for marijuana places. I guess the dispensaries can get coverage, but the growers can't due to the high fire risk. Every time I call around looking for policies, I'm either laughed off the phone (by someone who isn't in Colorado and doesn't understand what I'm talking about) or they tell me that there is a policy available, but the minimum premium is $20,000 a year and it doesn't cover ANY products/completed operations, any property, etc so it is basically a $20k a year policy to cover slip and falls. No one is going to by that.

Once the law in MT and TN go into affect next month, then we will all wait and see how the first law suit pans out, and if those states bend to the pressure of having Federal funds removed if they don't comply.

*Usually I wouldn't rely on stoners voting on anything, but since this is legitimate business owners whose livelihoods are at stake, then they are a stronger ally. Plus, they can hand out information about this to all of their customers. Of course there is the other side of them not necessarily wanting weed to take more steps in becoming legal, because then they'll risk losing their cornered market share where they can legally sell far above black market prices.

It is kind of sad when you have to convince many different small groups of people to come together to stand up for the freedoms of EVERYone, but it is what it is I guess.

[DOC]

I find it ironic that weed was legalized about the same time smoking was being thrown under the bus. There is also the problem that stoners are not very progun. Then tend to think left of reality. But guns and drugs were both attack by the feds in the same way taxes and regulations. Its only right that the 2 groups join efforts to fight for the same goal.

[Irving]

I've pointed out to gun grabbers before, that people who stand up for the 2nd Amendment, generally care about ALL the freedoms of EVERY group, while all the other groups feel comfortable picking and choosing which rights they care about. It would be extremely disappointing if the gun people had a problem with banding together with the medical marijuana people.

Plus, I don't know about you guys, but if I had a building jam packed with high grade weed, or was the grower growing that high grade weed, I'd sure be interested in looking to the gun people in showing me the ropes of self defense and security measures.

[Jer]

I've pointed out to gun grabbers before, that people who stand up for the 2nd Amendment, generally care about ALL the freedoms of EVERY group, while all the other groups feel comfortable picking and choosing which rights they care about. It would be extremely disappointing if the gun people had a problem with banding together with the medical marijuana people.

Plus, I don't know about you guys, but if I had a building jam packed with high grade weed, or was the grower growing that high grade weed, I'd sure be interested in looking to the gun people in showing me the ropes of self defense and security measures.

It's funny you should mention that because I have been on the 'legalize it' bandwagon since before it was popular but have never even tried it myself. I grew up around it but never felt the desire to try it. What I can see is how harmless it is aside from the crime aspect which is easily circumvented.... legalize it. Control it to make sure people aren't getting other drugs slipped in and that people aren't having to buy from criminals (criminal element) when they otherwise wouldn't be anywhere near that element. Then tax it to help the country recover from the mess our government along with all their entities to control this and watch over that have created. If someone wants to smoke a joint in the privacy of their own home who am I to care?

[Irving]

I agree mostly with what you said, except for the whole "tax it" BS. That is a total cop out and you know it. Taxing pot wouldn't help the government out any more than taxing Cheetos would, and the government doesn't need any more money from taxes. They need less spending. Every reason to legalize pot has to do with the potential of the private industry. Same thing with prostitution and all other drugs actually.

[Jer]

I agree mostly with what you said, except for the whole "tax it" BS. That is a total cop out and you know it. Taxing pot wouldn't help the government out any more than taxing Cheetos would, and the government doesn't need any more money from taxes. They need less spending. Every reason to legalize pot has to do with the potential of the private industry. Same thing with prostitution and all other drugs actually.

Good point. I guess I should have elaborated on what I meant by 'tax it' because I would like to see 100% of the $ seen from this taxation to go to education or something that has gotten over looked over the years that we can all benefit from in the long run. And the bottom line is that w/o the ability to government to realize a profit somehow and the people to benefit from it that's going to be a very difficult uphill battle.