Firearms Freedom Act Legislation Across the Country

[Jer]

I've pointed out to gun grabbers before, that people who stand up for the 2nd Amendment, generally care about ALL the freedoms of EVERY group, while all the other groups feel comfortable picking and choosing which rights they care about. It would be extremely disappointing if the gun people had a problem with banding together with the medical marijuana people.

Plus, I don't know about you guys, but if I had a building jam packed with high grade weed, or was the grower growing that high grade weed, I'd sure be interested in looking to the gun people in showing me the ropes of self defense and security measures.

It's funny you should mention that because I have been on the 'legalize it' bandwagon since before it was popular but have never even tried it myself. I grew up around it but never felt the desire to try it. What I can see is how harmless it is aside from the crime aspect which is easily circumvented.... legalize it. Control it to make sure people aren't getting other drugs slipped in and that people aren't having to buy from criminals (criminal element) when they otherwise wouldn't be anywhere near that element. Then tax it to help the country recover from the mess our government along with all their entities to control this and watch over that have created. If someone wants to smoke a joint in the privacy of their own home who am I to care?

[Irving]

I agree mostly with what you said, except for the whole "tax it" BS. That is a total cop out and you know it. Taxing pot wouldn't help the government out any more than taxing Cheetos would, and the government doesn't need any more money from taxes. They need less spending. Every reason to legalize pot has to do with the potential of the private industry. Same thing with prostitution and all other drugs actually.

[Jer]

I agree mostly with what you said, except for the whole "tax it" BS. That is a total cop out and you know it. Taxing pot wouldn't help the government out any more than taxing Cheetos would, and the government doesn't need any more money from taxes. They need less spending. Every reason to legalize pot has to do with the potential of the private industry. Same thing with prostitution and all other drugs actually.

Good point. I guess I should have elaborated on what I meant by 'tax it' because I would like to see 100% of the $ seen from this taxation to go to education or something that has gotten over looked over the years that we can all benefit from in the long run. And the bottom line is that w/o the ability to government to realize a profit somehow and the people to benefit from it that's going to be a very difficult uphill battle.

[GreenScoutII]

Yeah guys, I have to agree. I'm not a pot smoker myself, but seriously, its a friggin weed! Why we waste tax dollars on prosecuting and imprisoning people over it is beyond me. Same with the severe restrictions on full-autos, or short barreled rifles, or suppressors (silencers). Its a ridiculous thought process that any of these things are so dangerous as to deserve to be banned. As far as weed is concerned, being in the trades, I know a lot of guys who smoke pot. I've never seen a guy who is stoned out of his gourd develop an attitude and want to fight every guy in the bar. Alchohol seems to have this effect frequently. The stoner just wants Taco Bell and a nap.

[GunTroll]

You damn hippie sympathizers! Should have known you (Sturtle) would go for this crap!

[Irving]

I'm an inalienable rights sympathizer!

[Irving]

Alcohol is legal, but it's not free.

Here is my deal with legalizing all drugs. Just because they are legal, doesn't mean that the negative social stigma will automatically be lifted from them. I think that social pressures are much stronger at discouraging people from things than laws and legislation are. Not to mention that legalized use, doesn't mean they are completely unregulated.

The more I think about it, I think we could get some good results if we did something along the lines of being able to import and federally regulate certain drugs like cocaine, acid, mushrooms, etc. This way we can require a certain level of quality, while having the local violence associated with such businesses, be located outside of our boarders. Then set up something that basically says you can't manufacture any kind of a list of drugs state side (meth, and other cheap shit made out of cleaning products). This will allow the DEA to still run around like GI Joes and bust up home operations like they do now. Possession would have next to no punishments though (like weed now).

[DOC]

Drugs should be legal, guns should be legal and labels should be removed from chainsaws. Let the dumbasses work themselves out. They are only good for voting democrats anyway.

[GunTroll]

There is more money in having drugs illegal than ever having them legal so a source of revenue isn't a good argument for the legalization of any drugs. Also having drugs illegal makes the family/church voters happy for the most part.

And drugs aren't mentioned anywhere in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution to my understanding. So it isn't inalienable right such as firearms are or should be. So, no they should remain as they are....ILLEGAL. Now on the other hand I do feel weed should be decriminalized a bit. I just feel laws are too harsh for such a substance.

[Elhuero]

I got banned from coptalk over at glocktalk for proving, with results of scientific studies, that alcohol is more addictive and more harmful than cannabis.