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    Thanks for the heads up. I'll pass this info around my shop and see if anyone is interested.
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    What is the typical pay for a position like this one? I only ask because I am going to school for this very job.
    Who are you to want to escape a thugs bullet? That is only a personal prejudice, ( Atlas Shrugged)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOC View Post
    What is the typical pay for a position like this one? I only ask because I am going to school for this very job.
    the acronym DOE comes into play.

    Schooling is one thing, experience is another. But really it varies from one extreme to another.

    There are some salary surveys on sites like monster/dice/career builder.

    But right out of school with 0 experience $9-15 hr helpdesk, and moving up to deskside support role, then to Jr Admin.

    I have made $10 hr as a Service Manager, and $100K yr as a systems analyst and everything inbetween.

    PS I do not make $100K now

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    Thanks that does help me get a better idea of what to expect.
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    Something a lot of folks who aren't in the industry fail to consider is that these same type of positions that require a government security clearance can help to increase the salary; more so the higher the clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Something a lot of folks who aren't in the industry fail to consider is that these same type of positions that require a government security clearance can help to increase the salary; more so the higher the clearance.
    Not so much now as it was.

    I know a guy at L3 Communications that can get a clearance for someone with a clean record in 48 hours. That is an interim Secret.

    Used to be you had to get it in the service and keep it active working for DOD contractor.

    It still helps though, just not the deal breaker it used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOC View Post
    Thanks that does help me get a better idea of what to expect.
    No problem.

    I warn people to not get into IT right now, as it is saturated, and few really good jobs out there.

    In 2002 I got laid off, along with about 10000 other it folks in Colorado, I was competing for helpdesk jobs with PhD's, no joke, lot's of MS types too.

    Find a niche, and be willing to relocate for the best positions.

    Worst part for me, is I like rural America, and IT jobs don't grow on farms.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedave1164 View Post
    No problem.

    I warn people to not get into IT right now, as it is saturated, and few really good jobs out there.

    In 2002 I got laid off, along with about 10000 other it folks in Colorado, I was competing for helpdesk jobs with PhD's, no joke, lot's of MS types too.

    Find a niche, and be willing to relocate for the best positions.

    Worst part for me, is I like rural America, and IT jobs don't grow on farms.....
    What is MS types? Microsoft or Multiple Scleroses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    If you can get into linux and dirty hands coding/top end web development (which is very hard to do) as a jack of all trades, you will never run out of work. Even if you try to scare it with 80-90 hour weeks. Ask me how I know

    I also heard that those guys spend their late nights guarding their favorite forums from auto insurance spammers...

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    Doc, send me a PM, we sometimes bring on interns, located downtown Denver and have a nice cross-section of tech at work in the real world.

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