US Representative Shot

[davsel]

Maybe setting things up....

I believe there are some truly despicable people in politics.

Hodgkinson was a disenfranchised, white male, over 55, with anger problems and a tenuous grasp on reality. Not the kind of person the bleeding hearts bleed for. He was however, willing to take up arms against government officials. All the left needs now is for someone like him to target law enforcement while at a large protest full of special snowflakes who feel so wronged by the MSM and social media to have the potential for another Kent State.

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@JesseBenn
For violent resistance to work it'd need to be organized. Individual acts can be understandable, but likely counterproductive/ineffective.
11:57 AM - 14 Jun 2017

It's coming.

[Scanker19]

Best comment I've seen all day:

"A Bernie Sanders supporter that was awake at 7am?"

[Aloha_Shooter]

Uh, yeah...that's why they're called extremists. On the other hand, since November, which side has ratcheted up violent rhetoric, and violence, as a means of making a political statement? That's right...democrats. And not just the extremists. We have so-called comedians holding a likeness of the president's severed head. We have plays that depict the killing of someone that looks suspiciously like the president. We have pop singers talking about how shes thought of blowing up the white house. Riots. Destruction of property.

The left is completely unhinged. Out of their fucking minds. The right has never behaved this way, as a group, during my lifetime anyway. So don't try to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The left and right are not the same. The don't behave the same, they don't believe in the same things, they have opposite visions for the country.

We are bombarded with calls from the left, and not the extreme left either, for calls of unity, tolerance, stop the hate, blah, blah, blah. They don't mean that shit for a second. Sure, they want unity. On their terms. Fuck that. It's akin to the leaders of the former Soviet Union saying they just wanted peace. Sure they did. They wanted peace when they'd spread their brand of communism across the planet.

Anyone who believes the left and right are the same is a fool.

Having said all that, I don't blame anyone on the left what for what this asshat did any more than I blame the gun. He owns it. All of it. Not Bernie Sanders or anyone else...unless he had help.

I agree with you in general except that I DO blame some on the left who have been actively trying to stir up hate and violent activity. They have been actively promoting and encouraging violence. He still owns his actions but the promoters of political violence own their words and encouragement.

[Gman]

Best comment I've seen all day:

"A Bernie Sanders supporter that was awake at 7am?"

Sure, has dinner at 4:30 and is in bed by 5:30.

[Ronin13]

you seem to be confusing the terms asshole with homicidal maniac... what you're describing as an asshole is indeed a psychopath or homicidal maniac.

Someone who supports a law that punishes those THAT DID NOTHING WRONG because of the actions of a few psychopaths or homicidal maniac, while possibly well intentioned- are still assholes.
Someone who believes there are groups (either because of minority or celebrity status) are above certain laws is an asshole.
Those who support policies that are damaging to society, complain that things aren't that good in their community any more and proceed to move to another area that isn't ruined yet and support the same failed polices are assholes
Those that are so wilfully ignorant that they don't see what they are supporting are actually at least as bad as what they profess to be against (i.e. antifa)... and I don't just mean the assholes and psychopaths that go to the protests, but those that allow it to continue or "support" them are infact, assholes.
Those that pretend to know me or other strangers, and stick anyone they come across that has a differing opinion with a label so they can justify their horrible treatment of that person is an asshole.

Assholes (or Democrats, if there's actually a difference) may actually cut my hair, bag my groceries, or teach my kids... but I would not let one watch my kids. And as soon as they spout off, I will do everything to avoid them or keep from supporting them ( I even moved to East Texas because the AQ (Asshole Quotient) is significantly lower here)... I won't support them or their activities as soon as it's made known to me... and with many of them it's only a matter of time before they out themselves... because assholes must advertise... (it's one of their defining qualities)

With many assholes, the best way to deal with them is to ignore them... they are vying for attention- but they do not deserve it.
Many assholes I come across likely do not even know I can't stand them- because unless directly confronting them is necessary or beneficial, I just move on and leave them alone... because telling them they're an asshole just to make myself feel better would likely make me an asshole.

THIS... so much this!

Uh, yeah...that's why they're called extremists. On the other hand, since November, which side has ratcheted up violent rhetoric, and violence, as a means of making a political statement? That's right...democrats. And not just the extremists. We have so-called comedians holding a likeness of the president's severed head. We have plays that depict the killing of someone that looks suspiciously like the president. We have pop singers talking about how shes thought of blowing up the white house. Riots. Destruction of property.

The left is completely unhinged. Out of their fucking minds. The right has never behaved this way, as a group, during my lifetime anyway. So don't try to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The left and right are not the same. The don't behave the same, they don't believe in the same things, they have opposite visions for the country.

We are bombarded with calls from the left, and not the extreme left either, for calls of unity, tolerance, stop the hate, blah, blah, blah. They don't mean that shit for a second. Sure, they want unity. On their terms. Fuck that. It's akin to the leaders of the former Soviet Union saying they just wanted peace. Sure they did. They wanted peace when they'd spread their brand of communism across the planet.

Anyone who believes the left and right are the same is a fool.

Having said all that, I don't blame anyone on the left what for what this asshat did any more than I blame the gun. He owns it. All of it. Not Bernie Sanders or anyone else...unless he had help.

Amen! However, like Aloha said, at least a little of the blame rests with the left that moves to incite violence and engages in violent rhetoric. This shooter belonged to a group called "Terminate the Republican Party." Perhaps a little of the blame resides with this ideology and those who share it. While they don't share the same culpability, you don't see large numbers on the right calling for the outright extermination of all things in opposition to their beliefs. I honestly don't believe they really want a war... They surely can't be dumb enough to fail to realize which side out guns them by a very large margin... I hope.

[hurley842002]

I keep hearing folks talk of how much the right would outgun the left, and that might well be true, but one must not forget, the left is the party of hypocrisy, and typically feel the laws they rally for don't necessarily apply to them. So everyone can sit back and pound their chest until the sun goes down, but many a conflict has been lost by underestimating the opponent. Treat each person like they can kick your ass, but have a plan to keep it from happening.

[roberth]

I keep hearing folks talk of how much the right would outgun the left, and that might well be true, but one must not forget, the left is the party of hypocrisy, and typically feel the laws they rally for don't necessarily apply to them. So everyone can sit back and pound their chest until the sun goes down, but many a conflict has been lost by underestimating the opponent. Treat each person like they can kick your ass, but have a plan to keep it from happening.

Excellent points all.

[thvigil11]

"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."

"I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all."

"That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot. There are hunters and there are victims. By your discipline, cunning, obedience and alertness, you will decide if you are a hunter or a victim. It’s really a hell of a lot of fun. You’re gonna have a blast out here! "

-James Mattis

[Ronin13]

I keep hearing folks talk of how much the right would outgun the left, and that might well be true, but one must not forget, the left is the party of hypocrisy, and typically feel the laws they rally for don't necessarily apply to them. So everyone can sit back and pound their chest until the sun goes down, but many a conflict has been lost by underestimating the opponent. Treat each person like they can kick your ass, but have a plan to keep it from happening.

I agree... but if you watch some of these liberal dolts (granted not all, I know a few on the left who are quite capable), especially ANTIFA, with their "firearms training" they're 5ft from the broad side of the barn and can barely stay on target. Could this be diversionary propaganda? Maybe. But all-in-all, from what I've seen, these maroons can't shoot for shit.

[Zundfolge]

I keep hearing folks talk of how much the right would outgun the left, and that might well be true, but one must not forget, the left is the party of hypocrisy, and typically feel the laws they rally for don't necessarily apply to them. So everyone can sit back and pound their chest until the sun goes down, but many a conflict has been lost by underestimating the opponent. Treat each person like they can kick your ass, but have a plan to keep it from happening.

True, we should never underestimate our enemy. But if this guy and most of the scrawny basement dwelling Antifa/Black Bloc fools I've seen get beat down are an example of the left's vanguard, I fell pretty good about our odds.

Lets be honest, there are many people on this forum (particularly 3 gun shooters) that would have killed 5 or 6 of the people on that field before the security guys even slapped leather. Yet this guy was only able to wound 4 people in a 10 minute firefight.

Maybe the left is testing the waters with these fools and their pipe-hitters are waiting in the wings.