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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo View Post
    This democrat-republican shit is getting as bad as religion. The more heated everything gets, the more the extremists on either side feel license and support to take action. I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of those who identify themselves as Democrats are just as horrified as those who identify as Republicans. And yet rather than build common cause around that feeling, it took about 30 seconds for everyone on either side of the spectrum to assume their talking point positions. I'm tired of all fucking sides.
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    I do not see how either side can meet in the middle in today's highly charged, media fueled, society. There is no give and take any longer. Its all or none with this new breed of politics.

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    I'm willing to bet there are a fair number of Democrats all around you. They probably bag your groceries, cut your hair, watch your kids, and in general, go about life just being people. And then there are a few that are assholes. I am sure you hate it when they paint us with a broad brush. I suppose this is your opportunity to do the same.

    I disagree with the Democratic party platform and most of their political positions. I don't assume that everyone who disagrees with me is an asshole who hates America and seeks violence as a means to achieve their goals. It's too easy to rush to our familiar corners and repeat the same old lines, but that just gets us where we are now. I'm tired of it.
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    Looks like Bernie Sanders needs to tell his supporters that "violence is not the answer"

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    One of my favorite examples was a female college professor and well documented Obama supporter / fundraiser who went on a workplace shooting spree. Pretty sure it was in his first term, though for some reason the media didn't run with the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo View Post
    I'm willing to bet there are a fair number of Democrats all around you. They probably bag your groceries, cut your hair, watch your kids, and in general, go about life just being people. And then there are a few that are assholes. I am sure you hate it when they paint us with a broad brush. I suppose this is your opportunity to do the same.

    I disagree with the Democratic party platform and most of their political positions. I don't assume that everyone who disagrees with me is an asshole who hates America and seeks violence as a means to achieve their goals. It's too easy to rush to our familiar corners and repeat the same old lines, but that just gets us where we are now. I'm tired of it.
    Are you implying that others DO make that assumption.

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    No implications of any kind, other than what I wrote explicitly.
    Not even looking to target anyone specifically.
    Tired of the behavior, regardless of which side demonstrates it.
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    http://www.dennisprager.com/americas-second-civil-war/
    https://townhall.com/columnists/denn...olent-n2320819

    The majority of the population sat-out the first Civil War, while others died for what they believed in.
    The second will be the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    I do not see how either side can meet in the middle in today's highly charged, media fueled, society. There is no give and take any longer. Its all or none with this new breed of politics.
    While you're probably 99% true, there are a few people I've met online which is developing a new middle ground. A few on both sides realize that things are going crazy, and that the powers of government are out of control. A few former Obama supporters have come forward realizing that the Pen and Phone precedent was great when it was working for them, but bad now that Trump's in office, and are catching on that perhaps neither side should have those abilities. Same for other actions by Congress, etc.

    Yeah, it's very tiny and you're right that there's a huge polarization, but I still try to maintain just a smidge of hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo View Post
    I'm willing to bet there are a fair number of Democrats all around you. They probably bag your groceries, cut your hair, watch your kids, and in general, go about life just being people. And then there are a few that are assholes. I am sure you hate it when they paint us with a broad brush. I suppose this is your opportunity to do the same.

    I disagree with the Democratic party platform and most of their political positions. I don't assume that everyone who disagrees with me is an asshole who hates America and seeks violence as a means to achieve their goals. It's too easy to rush to our familiar corners and repeat the same old lines, but that just gets us where we are now. I'm tired of it.
    you seem to be confusing the terms asshole with homicidal maniac... what you're describing as an asshole is indeed a psychopath or homicidal maniac.

    Someone who supports a law that punishes those THAT DID NOTHING WRONG because of the actions of a few psychopaths or homicidal maniac, while possibly well intentioned- are still assholes.
    Someone who believes there are groups (either because of minority or celebrity status) are above certain laws is an asshole.
    Those who support policies that are damaging to society, complain that things aren't that good in their community any more and proceed to move to another area that isn't ruined yet and support the same failed polices are assholes
    Those that are so wilfully ignorant that they don't see what they are supporting are actually at least as bad as what they profess to be against (i.e. antifa)... and I don't just mean the assholes and psychopaths that go to the protests, but those that allow it to continue or "support" them are infact, assholes.
    Those that pretend to know me or other strangers, and stick anyone they come across that has a differing opinion with a label so they can justify their horrible treatment of that person is an asshole.

    Assholes (or Democrats, if there's actually a difference) may actually cut my hair, bag my groceries, or teach my kids... but I would not let one watch my kids. And as soon as they spout off, I will do everything to avoid them or keep from supporting them ( I even moved to East Texas because the AQ (Asshole Quotient) is significantly lower here)... I won't support them or their activities as soon as it's made known to me... and with many of them it's only a matter of time before they out themselves... because assholes must advertise... (it's one of their defining qualities)

    With many assholes, the best way to deal with them is to ignore them... they are vying for attention- but they do not deserve it.
    Many assholes I come across likely do not even know I can't stand them- because unless directly confronting them is necessary or beneficial, I just move on and leave them alone... because telling them they're an asshole just to make myself feel better would likely make me an asshole.
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