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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    I'd like to know what the NRA has actually ever done that's important. They remind me of the GOP. A lot of soapbox grandstanding, and yet we keep slipping into a democrat's wet dream. Am I just jaded, ignorant of their successes, and can be corrected on this view of the NRA? It's the primary reason I have refused to join their organization -- I don't see the point. Are they just a backstop to slow the slide?
    Yes you are.

    The NRA is one of the reasons Bloomberg has dumped millions of dollars in to local elections. Sometimes his "grassroots" wins, others it gets smacked down real hard.
    Unfortunately as we witnessed in CO. Having the votes in the legislature to steamroll any opponents, gun laws do get passed. The result, as mentioned before was 3 recalls. 2 lost at the ballot box, the other quit before a vote was cast.

    Of course you could donate at the state level
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    Here's a few blurbs from various media outlets. Something most search engines will bring up.

    http://gun.laws.com/reform-movements/nra-and-gun-reform
    One legislative victory that the NRA had in its battle against gun reforms was when it convinced the Congress to allow the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 to lapse in 2004.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/state...control-2013-4

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/us/nra...rch/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Yes you are.

    The NRA is one of the reasons Bloomberg has dumped millions of dollars in to local elections. Sometimes his "grassroots" wins, others it gets smacked down real hard.
    Unfortunately as we witnessed in CO. Having the votes in the legislature to steamroll any opponents, gun laws do get passed. The result, as mentioned before was 3 recalls. 2 lost at the ballot box, the other quit before a vote was cast.

    Of course you could donate at the state level
    http://www.cssa.org/


    Here's a few blurbs from various media outlets. Something most search engines will bring up.

    http://gun.laws.com/reform-movements/nra-and-gun-reform
    One legislative victory that the NRA had in its battle against gun reforms was when it convinced the Congress to allow the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 to lapse in 2004.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/state...control-2013-4

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/us/nra...rch/index.html
    Thank you, GK.

    I'll look into the links you provided.

    Was it RMGO who everyone on here hates? I'd certainly prefer state level organizations -- particularly if they could work w/ a national org like the NRA when needed, but otherwise fight local issues on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Thank you, GK.

    I'll look into the links you provided.

    Was it RMGO who everyone on here hates? I'd certainly prefer state level organizations --CSSA particularly if they could work w/ a national org like the NRA when needed, but otherwise fight local issues on their own.
    Affirmative. While RMGO's intentions were good (in the beginning) the whole Dudley My way or Not (IMO) was cause for us being stuck with the current mag restrictions. Among other numerous things, which a search will turn up. No use bringing that discussion back to life.
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    I was literally first on the list of 2 out of 3 of those meetings. Never got to talk in front of them until 7-8PM when everybody had already gone home. It was a complete sham. They did not want to hear from anybody that day. It was pure and simple.... they had the votes and were required to allow public comment. As stated, the Sheriffs showed up in force to say don't do this. I have a great pic of the room full of uniforms. The NRA helped get several of what should have great pro gun speakers. The senate members on the anti gun side where too busy playing with their iPads......
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    When I was there they were texting to each other about what they wanted for dinner. And when I got to speak I witnessed them stuffing their faces with hamburgers. They kept asking questions in regards to James Holmes and while I can't speak for that puke I could only speak to how he was being used to infringe on my rights. I was karma really. All the times I made fun of someone from California when they asked if that was a real 15 round magazine and asked if they were legal? All I could say was how glad I was this state isn't California. Well now I know how bad if feels when I go to another state and choke on the sweet sweet air of freedom. We need to get rid of these laws guys. Maybe, another try at adding magazines and private sales of private property to the constitution is needed. We may have suffered long enough that even the hunter only class that thinks its safe would be willing to sign and vote for it?
    I did see the NRA when they were having the repeal hearings and they said their speech and left. But it didn't matter when their pretty words about rights and responsibilities were falling on deaf ears.
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    Sorry it took so long to get back to my own thread. Had to make a short trip to the hospital. (I'm fine now). Thanks so much for all the great info here guys. This was really informative. It's still hard to imagine all the sheriffs opposing this bill yet the legislators not giving that weight. Unbelievable. It's all about money and power.

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    Our Sheriff's are brave men and deserve respect from all the people in Colorado. I hope they can succeed where the people failed and our elected representatives failed us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    Something to note about the NRA irrespective of this "ban"...

    They only get tons of $$$$ when there are big "gun control" battles. So while they are on our side, they are not looking for a permanent fix. (e.g. SCOTUS battles, Amendments, etc.). Even D.C. v. Heller which they tried to claim responsibility for they initially tried to impede, it was an independent attorney that brought it and self funded that battle. Like any large entity of hundreds to thousands of people, it ends up looking to sustain itself. A permanent fix = no money, no NRA, no jobs. Any kind of renewed battle = more money, bonuses for executives, etc. So, it creates a problem of its own.

    Without a permanent fix, it will likely be a slowly losing battle as every "compromise" the NRA agrees with is inevitably slicing more cheese off our block of rights.
    A completely successful NRA would soon cease to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    A completely successful NRA would soon cease to exist.

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