WHY THE F#:K IS IT...

[CS1983]

Something tells me that the people who do this probably won't reply.

[Hummer]

Something tells me that the people who do this probably won't reply.

Oh, yes they will. The people who do this are typically self-centered and arrogantly believe that everyone should love their animals as they do. Accepting their animals is tantamount to accepting them. They don't know or care about anyone else's sensibilities.

[KevDen2005]

People think their dogs are people and treat them as such. I upset some people recently when they asked if I wanted a wheel chair for my severely aging lab. I said, "No, the day he can't get up on his own is the day he gets put down." They couldn't believe I could be so heartless. My best friend spent years in the foster care system before being adopted. He absolutely hates when people use those terms with pets.

[Bailey Guns]

I'll respond. I've taken my Corgi into Home Depot twice...when she was just a few months old. She sat quietly in a cart and she enjoyed the attention everyone gave her. Hard not to smile at a Corgi puppy. It's a good way to socialize a puppy without having them run around out of control. Even though she's now a well behaved young adult I don't take her into stores any more because I know not everyone appreciates dog. Especially grumpy old gunsmiths. I don't have a problem with people having their dogs in the stores. The problem really isn't the dogs...it's the people. As usual.

[Hummer]

I'll respond. I've taken my Corgi into Home Depot twice...when she was just a few months old. She sat quietly in a cart and she enjoyed the attention everyone gave her. Hard not to smile at a Corgi puppy. It's a good way to socialize a puppy without having them run around out of control. Even though she's now a well behaved young adult I don't take her into stores any more because I know not everyone appreciates dog. Especially grumpy old gunsmiths. I don't have a problem with people having their dogs in the stores. The problem really isn't the dogs...it's the people. As usual.

You're right, of course. But despite an owner's innocent intentions, most any dog is capable of inflicting serious damage in an instant, faster than you can respond. A dog bite can cause infection and permanent tissue damage. I grew up with dogs and have loved several fine dogs that were not my own. But I don't wan to encounter strange, uncontrolled dogs in stores or on the trail. I could cite many examples like the Boulder chicklet whose two dogs jumped up on me, dirtied my clothes and damaged my camera lens in their exuberance. "Oh, they're friendly, they won't hurt you." Clueless, and careless.

[WETWRKS]

99% of the animals in stores are not licensed or trained service animals. They have no business inflicting their animals on others. This mindset that animals have the same rights as people is wrong. This includes charging people for killing a police dog. It is not an officer and does not deserve the same rights as one. If I were an officer I would be offended if people said that some stupid animal was as important as me.

[Bailey Guns]

99% of the animals in stores are not licensed or trained service animals. They have no business inflicting their animals on others. This mindset that animals have the same rights as people is wrong. This includes charging people for killing a police dog. It is not an officer and does not deserve the same rights as one. If I were an officer I would be offended if people said that some stupid animal was as important as me.

Cite an example where a person was charged with First Degree Murder (of a police officer) for killing a police dog. Killing a police dog is not the same as killing a police officer. Sure...in an emotional context people may say that...but it's hyperbole and everyone (at least reasonable people) knows that.

Having said that, killing a police dog should carry a hefty punishment. A lot of time, effort and expense goes into acquiring, training and maintaining police dogs. You'd be punished for destroying another piece of high value police equipment (like a vehicle) so it should be no less for killing a police dog. You'd also be charged for killing your neighbor's dog while committing a crime (which is when most people kill police dogs) in most places.

[WETWRKS]

Cite an example where a person was charged with First Degree Murder (of a police officer) for killing a police dog. Killing a police dog is not the same as killing a police officer. Sure...in an emotional context people may say that...but it's hyperbole and everyone (at least reasonable people) knows that.

Having said that, killing a police dog should carry a hefty punishment. A lot of time, effort and expense goes into acquiring, training and maintaining police dogs. You'd be punished for destroying another piece of high value police equipment (like a vehicle) so it should be no less for killing a police dog. You'd also be charged for killing your neighbor's dog while committing a crime (which is when most people kill police dogs) in most places.

I don't know what the official charges were or what they pled to...

http://www.akc.org/content/entertain...long-sentence/

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/man-...ry?id=41645362

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96229&page=1

But the sentences are in line with killing a person. And these sentences are not in line with the destruction of property. You steal or destroy something you are not typically going to get 10+ years in prison much less closer to 40. Moreover there are people who have been convicted of murder who have gotten sentences less than 40 years.

[Bailey Guns]

I don't know what the official charges were or what they pled to...

http://www.akc.org/content/entertain...long-sentence/

Judge Jill Rangos stacked the sentences for Rush’s multiple convictions, which included killing Rocco; stabbing Rocco’s handler, Officer Phil Lerza; punching officers; and attempting to take an officer’s gun.

A little more to the story than killing a police dog, wouldn't you say? Stabbing a police officer will get you a reservation at the Gray Bar Hotel.

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/man-...ry?id=41645362

An Ohio man who killed a K-9 officer has been sentenced to 34 years for the incident that resulted in shooting the dog and 11 years for additional crimes.

Kelontre Barefield, 23, pleaded guilty to both shooting K-9 officer Jethro and four unrelated burglary charges and an aggravated robbery charges, according to the Stark County Clerk of Courts.

So, let's see...burglary, aggravated robbery, getting into a shootout with police officers. Yeah...you're gonna go to jail for a while.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96229&page=1

But the sentences are in line with killing a person. And these sentences are not in line with the destruction of property. You steal or destroy something you are not typically going to get 10+ years in prison much less closer to 40. Moreover there are people who have been convicted of murder who have gotten sentences less than 40 years.

You seem to be missing the parts of the stories where all the offenders you cited were convicted of various other crimes against persons and property.

[WETWRKS]

You seem to be missing the parts of the stories where all the offenders you cited were convicted of various other crimes against persons and property.

34 of the 45 year sentence was for killing the dog.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/0...uty-get-fired/

And:

In 2014, a South Carolina man fleeing from police after committing an armed robbery was attacked by a police dog. The man shot the dog several times. When he was eventually caught, each bullet he fired he fired was considered an attempted murder charge, in addition to the charge of killing the dog. He got 35 years.