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    Default Sig P320 fires during drop safety test

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...not-drop-safe/


    After TTAG ran an article a few days ago disputing some claims that the P320 could fire when dropped, TTAG decided to perform their own drop test on a brand new in box P320 using primed cases. They were apparently surprised when they were able to reproduce the issue in 2 out of 3 drops.

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    Is this the one issued to vacationing ICE agents?
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    If we're doing this here... I am withholding judgement until more objective testing can be performed.

    There has been so much butt hurt over the XM17 process in spite of Sig being the only one to actually meet requirements. Everything is political.

    Any firearm can AD given the right (wrong) circumstances. It's the margin of safety that matters. IMHO every US mil issued weapon has had sufficient margin and Pvt Dumbfuck will still find a way to AD/ND (improperly maintained weapons are the fault of the operator).

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    This seems fairly balanced, they actually are halting sales until Sig responds:
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    Sig has responded.

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-p320-pistols/

    P320 pistol meets requirements for industry and government safety standards; performance enhancements optimize function, safety, and reliability.

    Newington, NH (August 8, 2017) – The P320 meets U.S. standards for safety, including the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) / Sporting Arms AmmunitionManufacturers’ Institute, Inc. (SAAMI), National Institute of Justice (NIJ), as well as rigorous testing protocols for global military and law enforcement agencies.

    The design of the SIGSAUER P320overcomes the most significant safety concern in striker-fired pistols today: the practice of pressing the trigger for disassembly. This can be performed with a round in the chamber which has resulted in numerous incidents of property damage, physical injury, and death. The disassembly process of the P320, however, uses a take-down lever rather than pressing the trigger, eliminating the possibility of discharge during the disassembly process.

    Recent events indicate that dropping the P320 beyond U.S. standards for safety may cause an unintentional discharge.

    As a result of input from law enforcement, government and military customers, SIG has developed a number of enhancements in function, reliability, and overall safety including drop performance. SIGSAUER is offering these enhancements to its customers. Details of this program will be available at sigsauer.com on Monday, August 14, 2017.

    The M17 variant of the P320, selected by the U.S. government as the U.S. Army’s Modular Handgun System (MHS), is not affected by the Voluntary Upgrade.

    “SIG SAUER is committed to our approach on innovation, optimization, and performance, ensuring we produce the finest possible products,” said Ron Cohen, President and CEO of SIG SAUER. “Durability, reliability and safety, as well as end-user confidence in the SIG SAUER brand are the priorities for our team.
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    What's up with the testers continuing to do testing on a gun that has already fired in previous test with little to no safety in mind? One guy is wearing flip-flops and shorts.

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    I'm not here to bash Sig or the P320 but the overall mechanical design didn't agree with me. That's the reason I parted ways with mine. Guess I'm just weird about stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorDG View Post
    What's up with the testers continuing to do testing on a gun that has already fired in previous test with little to no safety in mind? One guy is wearing flip-flops and shorts.
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    1980's Sig loses to Beretta---- CONSPIRACY!!!

    2010's Sig wins------- CONSPIRACY!!!

    Time and time again, there are always complainers about the mil acquisition process. There are also always questionable decisions by the folks selecting gear. It's been going on since there was a military. Can't wait to see the soap opera over the ICSR. The battle rifle folks are already going nuts over that one. What Tio Sam does has little impact on my personal choice of weapons. If I was younger and still "in" I might care. Sucks for our current service members to get crap, but I look back at some of the crap from my day and I consider much of it a rite of passage. If it's something that gets folks injured or killed, then the guilty should hang. Bear in mind though, its not the first time something was selected and then a problem was identified. At least it hasn't been fielded yet so they have time to make amends. Finally remember, Gomer will always find a way to F&#K something up.

    Still safer than an Osprey!

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    I like (don't love) my P320. It ran without issue in a 3 day pistol class I took it to. It's a fine weapon, but it could never replace my love for 1911's.

    That said, it will be sitting in my safe until I can get it sent to Sig for the trigger upgrades.

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