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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    BTW, since people seems to have "selective memory" :
    https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/0...ss-perfection/
    Why does pointing out the inherent danger of a firearm that can fire when dropped make me a fan boy of any other firearm? Can't it come from a place of expecting my firearms to not do that?

    These conversations always get so sideways from these childish manufacturer arguments.

    The thing is unsafe. Period. Had nothing to do with Glock, S&W, HK or anyone else. The issue needs to be corrected. End of debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Why does pointing out the inherent danger of a firearm that can fire when dropped make me a fan bit of any other firearm? Can't it come from a place of expecting my firearms to not do that?

    These conversations always get so sideways from these childish manufacturer arguments.

    The thing is unsafe. Period. Had nothing to do with Glock, S&W, HK or anyone else. The issue needs to be corrected. End of debate.
    ...Too easy...
    C'mon man, just messing with the Glock guys (not you specifically) !
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    Can you give me an example of a time when dropping a weapon (again, outside of high stress) is not careless?
    I think you rebutted yourself very effectively. And no, involuntary reactions are not "bad training".

    Just unbelievable....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
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    It appears Sig has pulled all P320 conversion kits off their website and they are out of the trigger up grades. Was there last week looking and they had a full selection.

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    Looks like Apex has suspended sales of their P320 trigger.
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    I shipped back today my Gray Guns PELT.
    They were very cool about it and will refund my purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spqrzilla View Post
    I think you rebutted yourself very effectively. And no, involuntary reactions are not "bad training".

    Just unbelievable....
    What's unbelievable to me is the casualness with which some people argue this is okay.

    A reflex response can and should be trained. I added the caveat of high stress because no level of training can prepare a person for every situation. If you don't know the difference, I can't help you.

    Most of us here have been burnt by cases; face, arms, shirt, etc... Shoot long enough and it happens. We all have stories, I can tell more but you'll ignore. Again, never dropped a firearm.

    I don't understand someone, particularly professional LE, walking in a parking lot and dropping a firearm.

    KB, I completely understand. Hands on in a fight, I get it. Get shot, run over, stabbed, etc and it makes sense. Would never be critical in those situations.

    If I'm on a range and someone drops a firearm, I'm gone, assuming RSO doesn't pull them immediately. If someone I know does it, it's one-on-one time before I shoot with them again.

    Any of you Army, Navy, Air Force vets believe dropping a firearm is okay?


    Maybe my experiences are just unique?


    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    I shipped back today my Gray Guns PELT.
    They were very cool about it and will refund my purchase.
    Bruce is a good guy and runs a great company. One of the few not to sell out for money even when he was seriously ill a few years back. I have several of his guide rods. I hope he's doing well since Sig pulled them into the Legion series.

    Though I wonder if his enhancements don't make this problem worse? As Superior said, you can't find parts and Gray Guns is OOS (but I would bet they pulled them).

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