Sig P320 fires during drop safety test

[Rooskibar03]

I thought the trigger mechanism was the serialized part on the 320, and you could buy a new frame for $44 on Sigs website?

Correct. The "firearm" is the trigger assembly and the rest is unmarked parts.

[ray1970]

Just got this. What a pain in the A$$

Dear XXXXXX,
You are receiving this notice because you recently purchased an Apex Tactical trigger for the Sig P320 pistol (MidwayUSA product numbers 686935, 293153, 972729).

Due to Sig Sauer’s recently-announced voluntary upgrade of the Sig P320 pistol, Apex Tactical has suspended sales of their Sig P320 aftermarket triggers. Apex Tactical asks Customers who have purchased an Apex Sig P320 Trigger to stop using the trigger and to please contact Apex Tactical Customer Service at (623) 322-0200 to return the trigger in exchange for credit towards any other Apex product.

We apologize for the inconvenience,
MidwayUSA Customer Service

I missed this post. I have one of the P320 Apex triggers sitting around. Maybe I can trade it in for something else.

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I don't know if this vid is legit, but the video claims this is the "fix"...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX9deSBBmWa/

(I don't know how to embed Instagram, but vid is SFW [just images of the frame/slide])


Claims a much heavier, gritty trigger pull.

Like I said pages back... Heavier trigger = greater margin of safety. The market didn't want this and I suspect the commercial P320 is now dead.

[Aloha_Shooter]

$60 per gun... I think that might be low.

I'm betting people are not getting their exact slides and frames back.

Does it much matter as long as they are getting back working firearms that won't AD as shown on the various tests and that have the correct serial numbers as well as any aftermarket equipment the owners had installed?

All the more reason mine won't be going back. Magwell, sites, trigger, magazine release are all aftermarket.

That's certainly your choice but making a conscious decision to NOT participate in a safety recall will likely affect the liabilities if something DOES happen. What would be the problem if the fix included a new frame or slide but they put all your aftermarket equipment back on and the weapon you got back had the correct (same) serial number as what you sent in?

The Frame/Chassis is the serialized part of the handgun on the P 320, the slide I believe is serialized to the frame as well
Sig has had enough bad PR without them swapping folks slides, and grips around. I would be suprised if they didn't do these one at a time.

I'm not with the ATF or a lawyer but as the manufacturer who is responsible for keeping track of the serial numbers, wouldn't they be able to swap the slide and/or frame with the correct (old) serial number then destroy the old part?

I must be missing something because I don't understand why people are freaking out over THIS part of the problem instead of the fact the gun can fire when bumped. So many of us have spouted the mantra, "there's no such thing as an accidental discharge, just negligent ones" that I wouldn't have expected all the denialism about the P320's potential for ADs. Would we then classify any drop-fires or slide-bump fires by owners who DIDN'T send their pieces in to be fixed as NDs?

[Gman]

Claims a much heavier, gritty trigger pull.

I would be totally shocked by that.

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Does it much matter as long as they are getting back working firearms that won't AD as shown on the various tests and that have the correct serial numbers as well as any aftermarket equipment the owners had installed?

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I must be missing something because I don't understand why people are freaking out over THIS part of the problem instead of the fact the gun can fire when bumped. So many of us have spouted the mantra, "there's no such thing as an accidental discharge, just negligent ones" that I wouldn't have expected all the denialism about the P320's potential for ADs. Would we then classify any drop-fires or slide-bump fires by owners who DIDN'T send their pieces in to be fixed as NDs?

Why would it matter? Because some people will have guns that don't have the tossed down the driveway look from all the YouTube vid "testing."




But seriously, there is probably different wear and handling. And some people like to customize their guns. It's just another thing that will piss people off over the whole thing. Sig has really screwed the pooch and apparently is into that kind of thing because they keep doing it.

And the P320 doesn't fire when "bumped." It's taking a hell of lot more to AD these guns like smacking it with a hammer five times in the right spot.

[Gunner]

Instead of starting anew thread, i figured this might fit in here. I got an offer for a p320 Compact for my G26 gen 4. The Sig hasnt been "fixed". Would it not be smart thing to make that trade? I've never owned a Sig 320. So I might get it and not like it and Im worried I would be stuck with it since it hasn't been sent back to Sig

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Instead of starting anew thread, i figured this might fit in here. I got an offer for a p320 Compact for my G26 gen 4. The Sig hasnt been "fixed". Would it not be smart thing to make that trade? I've never owned a Sig 320. So I might get it and not like it and Im worried I would be stuck with it since it hasn't been sent back to Sig

If the concern was based on the actual scope of the problem, I wouldn't have a problem with that trade. Understanding that the trigger might change after it's been sent back.

But since people are freaking out, I wouldn't go near a P320. We have no idea what the market will do with used P320s (corrected or not). Like you said, who knows if you can trade it off if you don't like it.

[Rooskibar03]

Instead of starting anew thread, i figured this might fit in here. I got an offer for a p320 Compact for my G26 gen 4. The Sig hasnt been "fixed". Would it not be smart thing to make that trade? I've never owned a Sig 320. So I might get it and not like it and Im worried I would be stuck with it since it hasn't been sent back to Sig

I have one in my bag or on my hip at all times. Couldn’t convince me to carry anything else. No one has had the recall done, Sig is still ramping up to start the work.

Guns are a personal preference. I love the way a 320 feels in my hand. In fact I did some dry fire the other night with my 17 and I had to push myself to use it. Its a fine weapon but I much prefer the 310 feel in my hand.

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