Charging more than $10 for a private transfer = illegal?

[Wiggity]

Here is the text from the 2013 transfer law.

(2) (a) A PROSPECTIVE FIREARM TRANSFEROR WHO IS NOT ALICENSED GUN DEALER SHALL ARRANGE FOR A LICENSED GUN DEALER TOOBTAIN THE BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION.(b) A LICENSED GUN DEALER WHO OBTAINS A BACKGROUND CHECKON A PROSPECTIVE TRANSFEREE SHALL RECORD THE TRANSFER, AS PROVIDEDIN SECTION 12-26-102, C.R.S., AND RETAIN THE RECORDS, AS PROVIDED INSECTION 12-26-103,C.R.S., IN THE SAME MANNER AS WHEN CONDUCTING ASALE, RENTAL, OR EXCHANGE AT RETAIL.THE LICENSED GUN DEALER SHALLCOMPLY WITH ALL STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS, INCLUDING 18 U.S.C. SEC.922, AS IF HE OR SHE WERE TRANSFERRING THE FIREARM FROM HIS OR HERINVENTORY TO THE PROSPECTIVE TRANSFEREE.(c) A LICENSED GUN DEALER WHO OBTAINS A BACKGROUND CHECKFOR A PROSPECTIVE FIREARM TRANSFEROR PURSUANT TO THIS SECTIONSHALL PROVIDE THE FIREARM TRANSFEROR AND TRANSFEREE A COPY OF THERESULTS OF THE BACKGROUND CHECK, INCLUDING THE BUREAU'S APPROVALOR DISAPPROVAL OF THE TRANSFER.(d) A LICENSED GUN DEALER MAY CHARGE A FEE FOR SERVICES RENDERED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION, WHICH FEE SHALL NOT EXCEED TEN DOLLARS.



Here is the entire bill: http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1229_enr.pdf


I'm surprised FFL's have been getting away with charging $50+ for transfers. Sounds to me like every single FFL who charges anything over $10 is breaking the law.


Thoughts?

[86k10]

That's the state's fee. The rest is the FFLs.

[Colorado Osprey]

They can charging up to $10 for the background check. There is no provision for how much someone can charge for the transfer.
So if you are selling a gun to your buddy and go in for buddy to get a background check so that you can sell it to him, the dealer can charge your buddy up to $10.

I believe what you are complaining about is ordering a gun a having it delivered to a FFL dealer. Now they can charge you $10 for the back ground check and what ever they feel like for the transfer from their FFL to you. Remember this is a service they may or may not offer. What they decide to charge you for this transfer from their FFL is up to them.

Am I off base or are dealers charging more than $10 for a back ground check on a private transfer where the dealer never takes possession of the firearm?
Will an FFL do a back ground without possession?

[mattiooo]

Am I off base or are dealers charging more than $10 for a back ground check on a private transfer where the dealer never takes possession of the firearm?
Will an FFL do a back ground without possession?

They are.

[mattiooo]

Mind you, I'm not complaining. Their staff is providing the service. That costs the business money. They also assume the risk.

[Wiggity]

They can charging up to $10 for the background check. There is no provision for how much someone can charge for the transfer.
So if you are selling a gun to your buddy and go in for buddy to get a background check so that you can sell it to him, the dealer can charge your buddy up to $10.

I believe what you are complaining about is ordering a gun a having it delivered to a FFL dealer. Now they can charge you $10 for the back ground check and what ever they feel like for the transfer from their FFL to you. Remember this is a service they may or may not offer. What they decide to charge you for this transfer from their FFL is up to them.

Am I off base or are dealers charging more than $10 for a back ground check on a private transfer where the dealer never takes possession of the firearm?

I'm talking about the bolded. Almost all FFL's charge $20+ for this. Sure looks to me like this is illegal.


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[Great-Kazoo]

I'm talking about the bolded. Almost all FFL's charge $20+ for this. Sure looks to me like this is illegal.


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So if you are selling a gun to your buddy and go in for buddy to get a background checkso that you can sell it to him, the dealer can charge your buddy up to $10.


They are actually charging $6 for the CBI BGC and what ever they want for the transfer. You should verify TRANSFER FEES before having the BGC and TRANSFER done.

[mattiooo]

I'm talking about the bolded. Almost all FFL's charge $20+ for this. Sure looks to me like this is illegal.

At Liberty Firearms, They charge $6 for the background check and $20 for doing the transfer.
Similar at Ark, but the total is $25.

The bold is what they can charge for doing the background check. Not for managing the entire transfer.

[Wiggity]

Well a background check is the only thing you need for the transfer. And the law says they have to provide you with a copy of the results. So charging a bgc fee plus a transfer fee doesn't make any sense.


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[Great-Kazoo]

Well a background check is the only thing you need for the transfer. And the law says they have to provide you with a copy of the results. So charging a bgc fee plus a transfer fee doesn't make any sense.


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Bullshit.
You want a business to take time out from their sales to assist you with a non store purchase, for free. Makes sense to me.

You believe those 4473's fill them self out, then robo call to CBI. Every step requires a person to handle it. It's not your FFL or business on the line if there's a mistake on the paperwork, is it?