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    Not sure this is the right sub forum for this ... if not, the mods can move it.


    I was thinking now would be a good time to start a discussion on the ways we can get Google out of our lives ... Google is evil and the sooner we can stop using their "services" the better.

    There are several aspects of Google in our lives we should all be finding replacements for.

    • Email
    • Search Engine
    • Video Service
    • Social Media
    • Web Browser


    I thought I'd start the discussion out with alternatives to the Google Search Engine (the toughest one is going to be email for sure and video service is really more up to creators and not users to decide on).

    So I've been using Duck Duck Go for quite a while and while it works ok (especially when searching "controversial" subjects that Google is actively skewing/suppressing) I still wonder if I can't do better. So lately I've been playing with Qwant because, well frankly its prettier.

    Was wondering what people's experiences with these two search engines (and others) has been.
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    Search:
    startpage.com is the default search engine for firefox in Linux Mint 18.2

    It seems to essentially mimic Google's results, though not always. It's also a proxy based engine, so if you want to link any pics you find it can be a pain since the url is obscured by the proxy. I often have to use Dogpile (yes, it still exists!) at work, because our filtering software will often peg Google results and not let me get to such dangerous things as Microsoft's KB pages.

    Email? I don't know why people don't just pay for a domain name, at least for professional purposes, or buy an email account elsewhere. I never put my personal email on anything professional. If I was going to move away from a "free" email, I'd register an innocuous domain name, do the private fee, and make a "professional" sounding email and then personal would be something different. I'd then charge $1 to friends to have their email hosted there. If HR ever pulled their, "We found liberalsuck@domain.com saying some things on a website and he lives in Colorado Springs according to his profile... and you have name@domain.com; do you know anything about that?" I'd pull the old, "domain.com is an email hosting service which is a local business. I cannot control their other clients." and just Jesuitically weave from that punch by HR.

    Video:

    Dailymotion.com is a potential... results suck and are often weird.

    Here's a list of alternatives:
    https://www.thetoptens.com/best-alternatives-youtube/

    Social Media:

    Don't use it really. I have a few burner accounts for looking up things/people. LinkedIn is the only "production" Social Media I have.

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    I'm planning my iPhone escape now. It will necessitate buying an actual digital camera since I'm going to go with a cricket brick phone. Email will not be viewed or answered unless I'm at a computer. Videos will be unwatched. Texts will be short and to the point because I'll have to click 3x as much to get a letter I want. It's going to be 1999 levels of awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    I'm planning my iPhone escape now. It will necessitate buying an actual digital camera since I'm going to go with a cricket brick phone. Email will not be viewed or answered unless I'm at a computer. Videos will be unwatched. Texts will be short and to the point because I'll have to click 3x as much to get a letter I want. It's going to be 1999 levels of awesome.
    Lame, but to each their own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Email? I don't know why people don't just pay for a domain name, at least for professional purposes, or buy an email account elsewhere.
    Two reasons. 1 its not free and 2. unless you're paying for top tier hosting, you can expect your emails to be rejected by large numbers of people (particularly corporate recipients) because nobody trusts email anymore and the anti-spam countermeasures have made using email a big pain. Even at work I occasionally have to send people their proofs or what-not via the company's Gmail account because the security and anti-spam countermeasures set up on their email server dump mail from our domain (and this is using GoDaddy as a host, which is less likely to be rejected ... my wife uses some cheap off-name hosting service and about a quarter of the people she tries to email with it reject her email).

    As for moving email service, I'm considering ProtonMail as it's encrypted and they have a free option (although the pay one is only 48.00 € /Year)

    Oh and I forgot to mention web browsers (as Chrome is Google and Mozilla is just about as bad as Google). I've been experimenting with Brave and am just about to make it my default (wish they'd hurry up with some extension support). Its lean, mean, fast and started by Brenden Eich.
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    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Some are easy to avoid (search engine). Others are pretty much impossible unless you completely cut the cord. Biggest one is Android devices. They pretty much are useless with out a google account (same goes for apple and Iphone).

    Honestly there is no way to avoid being tracked, profiled, etc unless you avoid the internet completely.

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    Reading this thread via carrier pigeon currently
    You sir, are a specialist in the art of discovering a welcoming outcome of a particular situation....not a mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFBrews View Post
    Reading this thread via carrier pigeon currently
    How do you keep 'em from crapping on the keyboard?
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    I've tried dropping google before, email is easy but search engine is tough as there is a large gap in quality from google to everything else. With Google owning YouTube there isn't a legitimate competitor for that either. I will never use anything Android but I'm stuck with YouTube and Google search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Lame, but to each their own.


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