9/11/2001

[roberth]

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I also belive it is a ruling class problem, ie both parties, that they don't understand the threat of ISlam, and how to counter it in nontraditional means.

The ruling class ignores the truth about islam because they derive monetary benefit from it, they don't care what happens to the proles as long as Saudi and other Arab money continues to roll into their accounts.

[Great-Kazoo]

Cantor Fitzgerald... I remember the story of Howard Lutnick, losing almost 3/4 of their staff, including his brother... surviving only because he was late that day dropping his son off at kindergarten.

My cousin worked there. He was talked in to going to breakfast by his dad, my uncle. Or he would have been another name on a plaque of friends and family.

I had the privilege/honor to go to the memorial in NYC last year. It is one of the most surreal experiences i've ever had. It's really unexplainable unless you've been there. you seem to run the gamut of emotions, and since I was Alive when it happened it made it even more so. Make a day and go, but only do that on that day, the experience could emotionally drain you.

Was there Dec of 2001, when you couldn't park within a 10 block radius AND were subject to random searches crossing the bridges and riding the subway

The saudi's are BANKROLLING the terrorists and radicals
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FIFY. The Saudis flew planes in to buildings, not Iraqi's or Afghani's. We should have shit canned SA decades ago and relied on our own oil.
Fuck any country or regime in the cradle of civilization, as it was once called.

It's not called the Religion of Pieces for nothing.

[Gman]

The ruling class ignores the truth about islam because they derive monetary benefit from it, they don't care what happens to the proles as long as Saudi and other Arab money continues to roll into their accounts.

The government likes for the people to be afraid....of anything. It makes the great unwashed easier to control.

This was well documented in Machiavelli's "The Prince", hundreds of years ago.

[roberth]

The government likes for the people to be afraid....of anything. It makes the great unwashed easier to control.

This was well documented in Machiavelli's "The Prince", hundreds of years ago.

Yes and that is what we're seeing through the media, constant fear mongering. The media over-hypes anything that points to the production of further government control.

We cannot forget that the primary purpose of big government is to grow itself.

[rondog]

And today - we have snowflakes marching in the streets demanding that we let in to the US all the Muslims that want to move here.....

[RblDiver]

Driving to school, I remember it was a Tuesday because it was late start day (but I still drove in early). I heard on the radio about the first plane, and my thinking was that it was a small one that hit on accident. Then, as I listened, I heard about the second, and the Pentagon, etc. I remember walking in to class, thinking about how nonchalant many of the kids were, when I was internally screaming "Don't you know we're at war?!?"

And, of course, all my classes insisted on continuing to follow the lesson plans, while it seems all the others were glued to the news.