Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
Sounds like you have been reading of the same SHTF threads I have.

Not sure what "mountains" they plan on living in. Forest Service, squatting on private property, BLM, open space, KOA...? Not a lot of edibles up here in the winter. Plus there is the little things like snow and wind.
What always concerns me about those plans is for those that live where the unwashed millions in urban areas plan to "bug out" to... I live rural, so most scenarios would have me "bugging in"... and I have to include plans to deal with the possible situation that someone decides my spread is what they need. My place in Penrose was very defensible (house on a hill, 360 degree views of approach, etc), but was not easily self-sustainable.
Here in Canton, I'll have to get creative with defense (and I have some of de fence work, too), but it's much more self sustainable... greenhouse, garden, chickens, cattle... that in itself will make us a target

Natural disasters are a possible exception (i.e. Harvey)