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    What they think they are kneeling for is their perception of injustices done to minorities. The players are not understanding their posturing is being used for larger game of taking down the NFL and anything that represents right leaning America.

    The NFL has had a great history of pushing forward in player support to undo the injustices of the past. We supported the NFL for the sheer joy of seeing the best in sportsmanship and competition while providing a venue for those with the God given athletic talents to succeed and hopefully provide the role models needed for so many still in poverty.

    When Limbaugh expressed sheer joy in the opportunity to join an ownership group for the St Louis Rams he was drummed out because of his challenge of progressives and generally anti-american left who are outright supporting socialists, marxists and anarchists with the goal is to tear down our Republic for a socialist democracy. The attack on him was as much an attack on everyone who listen or agree with his politics.

    Shootings in any Dem run s*** hole city it is our fault because we are gun advocates. Trump, Milo, Rush, Hannity or any right leaning public figure are all racist, fascists Nazis and all those who support them are as well. The press will never stop reminding us of this.

    We all work hard to support our families and do our best to raise good children but in every venue from Hollywood to nightly news we are what is wrong. Nothing ever is done to address the issues of poor populations not finishing high school, having kids out of wedlock, not working to support their families. Somehow it is our fault.

    My wife said to me she will not be attending any more home games and wished to just sell the rest. We have owned and supported Broncos since 96 and even attended SB#50 for our 30th anniversary. It is up in the air if we purchase season tics next year.

    That is what their kneeling says to me and I am tired of doing the right things but being blamed for others not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiCO View Post
    What they think they are kneeling for is their perception of injustices done to minorities. The players are not understanding their posturing is being used for larger game of taking down the NFL and anything that represents right leaning America.

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    Likely this. But you know what? If you want to have a conversation about something don't insult the majority of the country that has jack shit to do with the nature of your complaints.

    I read it more like virtue signaling... These are millionaire minorities enjoying more success than any other country in history has provided them (including countries run by other minorities). So well they have it that if they decided they'd like to study instead of play ball, we will yank a "white" person out of higher ed and happily give them the spot.

    Now they aren't going to write the check to make it all fair. Libtarded bastards never do! So what can they do that is nearly free and says "I'm down with the people?"

    Same reason NFL management from the teams all the up to Goodell are so confused over this. And you're right, Libs are mouth-foaming at the chance to take down the NFL. What will all those disadvantaged millionaires do then?

    If there is a real issue and a discussion to be had, let's have it. I'll listen and I'll make them listen to me/us. But don't shit on the country that gave you so much!

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    In case anyone is confused and thinks this is a free speech issue...

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/nfl-...st-mike-tomlin

    That's a coach, deciding for every player, that they will not "participate" in the national anthem.

    And one (a vet) still said "fuck you"...

    http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/...tional-anthem/


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    Sales Of Alejandro Villanueva Jerseys Skyrocket After Being Only Steeler To Stand For National Anthem
    PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Alejandro Villanueva jersey sales are skyrocketing after he was the lone member of the Pittsburgh Steelers to stand for the national anthem before Sunday’s game against the Chicago Bears.

    On Fanatics.com Villanueva’s jersey is now the top selling Steelers jersey, and one of the top selling jerseys in the entire NFL.

    The rest of the Steelers remained in the locker room and tunnel behind Villanueva during the national anthem.

    NFL fans were moved by Villanueva’s decision to emerge from the tunnel and stand for the anthem with his hand over his heart.
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    You have to wonder how long it's going to be before the NFL decides that saluting the flag and having other patriotic symbolism at NFL games is "too divisive" and just drop the practice altogether in order to avoid the "controversy."

    Which, come to think of it, would be just fine with most of the SJW's out there.

    Now, I don't think this was their agenda when this whole thing started (I don't give them that much credit) but it seems likely that that would be the outcome. If the issue of standing/kneeling/doing the hokey-pokey during the National Anthem is going to cause controversy, what better way to deal with it than to just stop doing the Anthem?

    Problem solved, right?
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    If you feel that there is social injustice, then do something to improve the situation. Taking a knee is akin to 'slacktivism'. You want people to think that you care, but you're not doing anything effective to change the situation. Maybe they should have a patch on their uniforms with a certain colored bow, just to show that they care more than the next guy?

    By dissing the National Anthem, they're not sending the right message. Instead of getting a clue, they've doubled down and pissed off more of their customer base. They're entertainers. If you want to make the most coin by being an entertainer, don't go political. If you want to divide your potential earnings by half, go political.

    'BURN THE NFL': Americans are destroying football jerseys after players kneel in protest during the national anthem

    I've been reading that the Cowboys intend to show some form of protest during the Anthem on MNF. I won't be watching. I think the NFL having some abysmal ratings might finally get someone's attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    You have to wonder how long it's going to be before the NFL decides that saluting the flag and having other patriotic symbolism at NFL games is "too divisive" and just drop the practice altogether in order to avoid the "controversy."

    Which, come to think of it, would be just fine with most of the SJW's out there.

    Now, I don't think this was their agenda when this whole thing started (I don't give them that much credit) but it seems likely that that would be the outcome. If the issue of standing/kneeling/doing the hokey-pokey during the National Anthem is going to cause controversy, what better way to deal with it than to just stop doing the Anthem?

    Problem solved, right?
    I give them more credit than you, after all, they've been in somebody's pocket for a long time (thus their tax exempt status, etc.).

    Keep your eyes open for the re-branding of patriotism as 'white supremacy' or some other 'movement' which they can then demonize and vilify... Me thinks the noose is tightening around the neck of the God-and-country-loving American. The NF-Hell is just one piece of the puzzle...
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    Villaneuva may not be the hero some are making him out to be. Sounds like he didn't mean to go out on to the field after all. The story is a little confusing, though.

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/0...looks-bad.html
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    Dinesh D'Souza nails it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Villaneuva may not be the hero some are making him out to be. Sounds like he didn't mean to go out on to the field after all. The story is a little confusing, though.

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/0...looks-bad.html
    Bullshit! He knew exactly what he was doing. The rest of the team wasn't even on the field. Did he walk straight past them? Miss the pre-game hate America briefing?

    He was threatened because (as I posted above) coach said no one was going to participate.
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    "Not knocking you but I see that as a defeatest, retreating attitude."

    Let's see if I have this correct...So, you're not knocking him...but you say he has a defeatest, retreating attitude. Nope, you're knocking him. You know, for having a defeatest, (BTW, it's "defeatist", with an "i") attitude. I'm not the grammar police, but then, I'm not the one splitting hairs, here.
    Frankly, I agree with him. I have opinions I can't share with my employer's clients. I'm on their time, wearing their uniform, such as it is, and their reaction to my opinion may, probably would, affect their standing with said clients. Not the proper venue. On my time, sure, no problem, their time, at their venue, an opinion that likely will negatively affect their bottom line, it's not a "free speech" issue.
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