Well it Finally Happened (Healthcare Rant Thread)

[Wiggity]

Very tragic. Sorry to hear this.

When it really comes down to it, you can go to the ER and they can't refuse treatment whether or not you can pay for it. He could have totally gone to a doctor. I'm not sure the healthcare system is 100% to blame for this.


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Situation is, any of us can have a genetic ticking time bomb, which may be at play here. A weak artery somewhere, an aneurysm ready to rupture, etc.

Then you get reasonably serious illness that stresses the system, but you should otherwise be able to walk off.

A+B = dead in that circumstance. You can't always say "why didn't he go to a doctor before it was too late?" Some people dealing with a routine illness go suddenly and it is a shock. Would proper care help even in these circumstances? Maybe, but not always. Physicals etc can catch the underlying problem. Early medical care can ease the "stress". Either could avert being dead, in some, but not all situations.

Something for everyone to remember though is always go in if it gets serious. Even if you rack up $500,000 in hospital bills, you can declare bankruptcy if need be, and still keep your house, your car, stuff in your house, your job, etc. If you get a serious diagnosis (e.g. cancer) go buy a policy. They can't deny for pre-existing. As far as the IRS penalty, just don't check the box on the form as to if you have had coverage or not - loophole.

Please, yes!

We are waiting to see if they will do an autopsy. I've been through this with grandparents and cause of death was apparent. With this, who knows. Like you said, there could have been an underlying issue that he never knew about because he went without care for so long.

[MrPrena]

I blame (mainly in order)

1. FDA and its stupid 15 + year for 1 stupid patent to get I to a drug.
2. Pharmaceuticals and its tardness.
So same freaken US brand name drugs cost far less in different country than in US?
3. Stupid generic brand (bottom feeder of pharma/biotech) retard jacking up prices.

I think there are some bullcrap going on here with different generic drug maker like cartelship. This is a big stupid side effect for generic makers to M&A like crazy. This is why people like "Pharma bro" exist.

4. Insurance companies.
5. Stupid lawsuits.

[kidicarus13]

I am a sole income earner and pay $674 per month for family coverage. Individual deductible is $3,000, then 80/20 and out-of-pocket max is $6,000. Double those numbers for family.

When it's all said and done, we'll have paid somewhere in the range of $10k @ 100% out of pocket NOT including our premiums (which add up to $8,000/year). For those doing the math, that's $18k I'm shelling out to have a baby.

That's really taking it in the shorts. Insurance is such a scam.

[Gman]

I blame (mainly in order)

1. FDA and its stupid 15 + year for 1 stupid patent to get I to a drug.

This one is on George W. Bush. He also signed-in the death of incandescent lightbulbs. I had a number of generics, that had been effectively used for decades (one of them for 150 years) in generic form. I used to be able to get a 3 month supply for $11. Then it wqs fast-track patented and went to over $4 per pill.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if many of the congress critters were invested in the companies doing the fast-track patents.

[OtterbatHellcat]

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if many of the congress critters were invested in the companies doing the fast-track patents.

I don't doubt that for a skinny minute.

[GilpinGuy]

This one is on George W. Bush. He also signed-in the death of incandescent lightbulbs. I had a number of generics, that had been effectively used for decades (one of them for 150 years) in generic form. I used to be able to get a 3 month supply for $11. Then it wqs fast-track patented and went to over $4 per pill.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if many of the congress critters were invested in the companies doing the fast-track patents.

When contemplating any new legislation, "lawmakers" first ask themselves "How can I personally benefit from this?" Sadly, this is the root of all that is wrong with our political system today.

[rondog]

Really REALLY glad my wife works for Kaiser Permanente, and is union to boot!