Any signs of another panic in gun shops?

[fitz19d]

Case in point.

[MrPrena]

We have a R majority, no one is losing seats over not doing something about guns. Fuck the NRA, and the libshit "R"s like the one from New York.

Saying this is ok is like fudds being ok with anything that doesn't hurt their hunting shotguns. It may be a niche product, but it's even sillier to consider banning when it's easy to do without a stock without (just not as well) but can be recreated at home really too. Bump boards etc.

Ceeding this is horseshit unless it's part of a trade for the suppressor bill. Even that is questionable but at least it's a trade. Not like caving will get any recognition from left voters.

[theGinsue]

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[Aloha_Shooter]

What you're ignoring is that when things with this kind of visibility happen, it causes a huge swell amongst the self-described moderates who "want to do something". They don't know what "something" is but they know it's not nothing. When this happens, you have to have a multi-pronged response. If you just say "no" to everything as many want to do, you risk being labeled as such and all your responses get ignored. "Oh, I don't care what they say about universal background checks or high capacity magazines because they wouldn't even discuss ______".

The pressure to "do something" will ease as time goes on but we have to get past the ground swell created by the immediacy of the event. That immediacy is precisely what the gun control totalitarians are trying to take advantage of and precisely what we have to take from them. They know this as well as we do and that's why they keep exerting constant pressure.

As Bruce Lee said, "be like water." I think that's exactly what the NRA is trying to do right now.

[kidicarus13]

In one day, from available to a price increase to unavailable (sold out) to no ETA on availability due to high demand to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/b...mp-stocks.html

Walmart and Cabel's remove SF stocks from their website

[DireWolf]

What you're ignoring is that when things with this kind of visibility happen, it causes a huge swell amongst the self-described moderates who "want to do something". They don't know what "something" is but they know it's not nothing. When this happens, you have to have a multi-pronged response. If you just say "no" to everything as many want to do, you risk being labeled as such and all your responses get ignored. "Oh, I don't care what they say about universal background checks or high capacity magazines because they wouldn't even discuss ______".

The pressure to "do something" will ease as time goes on but we have to get past the ground swell created by the immediacy of the event. That immediacy is precisely what the gun control totalitarians are trying to take advantage of and precisely what we have to take from them. They know this as well as we do and that's why they keep exerting constant pressure.

As Bruce Lee said, "be like water." I think that's exactly what the NRA is trying to do right now.

The problems are that:

1. They will NEVER allow the pendulum to swing the other direction, so any consession is a permanent loss this side of a civil war.

2. There will ALWAYS be another event which allows them to take the next incremental step - and if an event doesn't happen naturally then one will be engineered. This pattern will continue indefinitely as long as results are obtained (see point #3)

3. If LE dealt with kidnapping/terrorist/ransom demands in that way, we'd see no end in escalations - my understanding that this is the very reason why acquiescing to ransom/demands is almost universally rejected in LE circles (if this is incorrect, someone with direct experience here can chime in)

4. They don't listen to anything we say anyway, so fuckem' - go into it with the understanding that they will NEVER be happy, even (especially) if they get what they want, and understand that we can ignore their pissing and moaning just as effectively as they can ignore logic, reality, and cause/effect relationships...



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[thvigil11]

If you give a mouse a cookie.

Conservatives never seem to learn the lesson. The left does not give, sway or concede. Compromise to them is for everyone else to give them what they want, either immediately or incrementally.

[SouthPaw]

In one day, from available to a price increase to unavailable (sold out) to no ETA on availability due to high demand to this:

I spoke to an individual this morning who has pallets of Slide Fire stocks in his shop. He told me that Slide Fire called him and asked to "buy back" any extra stock he had so they can fill orders because they ran out. He said he shipped them (6) pallets..

[Aloha_Shooter]

The Left doesn't give, sway or concede but the Middle does. Look at how attitudes toward guns and gun control moved back toward the center and common sense even during the Obama years with Democratic control of the Senate, House, Hollywood, and MSM. Losing the center by appearing obstructionist is how the Left gets to implement their more heinous policies. That's why it's a multi-pronged defense ... why you keep them talking about bump stocks, you counter their BS and lies regarding suppressors and universal background checks. You point out the inconsistency between their stance that poor people can't afford IDs to vote but apparently aren't important when it comes to self-defense because the Left wants to require IDs to buy ammo as well as guns.

I don't have a problem with apparent retreat on a small issue if it gives us the ability to wage effective battle on the larger ones.

[DireWolf]

I don't have a problem with apparent retreat on a small issue if it gives us the ability to wage effective battle on the larger ones.

I don't disagree with this concept, but I also can't remeber a single victory which has been achieved in this fight. Things like lack of a renewed AWB, ATF backpeddling on bans of M855/pistol-braces/etc. are stalemates, not actual victories (any recent "victory" can only be consided as such when viewed as managing to avoid a crushing loss, but definately no more than that)

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