Any signs of another panic in gun shops?

[Dave_L]

The problems are that:

1. They will NEVER allow the pendulum to swing the other direction, so any consession is a permanent loss this side of a civil war.

2. There will ALWAYS be another event which allows them to take the next incremental step - and if an event doesn't happen naturally then one will be engineered. This pattern will continue indefinitely as long as results are obtained (see point #3)

3. If LE dealt with kidnapping/terrorist/ransom demands in that way, we'd see no end in escalations - my understanding that this is the very reason why acquiescing to ransom/demands is almost universally rejected in LE circles (if this is incorrect, someone with direct experience here can chime in)

4. They don't listen to anything we say anyway, so fuckem' - go into it with the understanding that they will NEVER be happy, even (especially) if they get what they want, and understand that we can ignore their pissing and moaning just as effectively as they can ignore logic, reality, and cause/effect relationships...



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Just ask them why do they trust you with one gun but not ten? You'll usually find out that they would prefer you have no guns because if they trust you with one gun, ten shouldnt be any different but they can't handle that thought. So they revert to "no guns!" once you try to show the holes in their thinking.

[MED]

I stopped by Walmart off Bowles/470. The ammunition shelf was fully stocked with all the rollback stickers still in place; there were no signs of panic buying (so far)

[thvigil11]

The Left doesn't give, sway or concede but the Middle does. Look at how attitudes toward guns and gun control moved back toward the center and common sense even during the Obama years with Democratic control of the Senate, House, Hollywood, and MSM. Losing the center by appearing obstructionist is how the Left gets to implement their more heinous policies. That's why it's a multi-pronged defense ... why you keep them talking about bump stocks, you counter their BS and lies regarding suppressors and universal background checks. You point out the inconsistency between their stance that poor people can't afford IDs to vote but apparently aren't important when it comes to self-defense because the Left wants to require IDs to buy ammo as well as guns.

I don't have a problem with apparent retreat on a small issue if it gives us the ability to wage effective battle on the larger ones.

In a fair fight, yes the middle can be swayed. While I respect your opinion and see your logic, I don't share your optimism or faith with the ability of the NRA or the GOP to deal with the left. Regardless of public opinion on the right, middle or left. This is going to end badly for us gun lovers, with no concessions.

To use another analogy. The liberals are like the bird in the "playing chess with a pigeon story." Unfortunately, the leadership on our side think the game is checkers and are taking strategy from Zap Brannigans Big Book of War.

"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."

[buffalobo]

I don't disagree with this concept, but I also can't remeber a single victory which has been achieved in this fight. Things like lack of a renewed AWB, ATF backpeddling on bans of M855/pistol-braces/etc. are stalemates, not actual victories (any recent "victory" can only be consided as such when viewed as managing to avoid a crushing loss, but definately no more than that)

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+1

If you're unarmed you are a victim

[Brass]

CDNN has plenty of 6920s for $799, so I guess that is as good as any proof of no panic.

[MrPrena]

I think panic buying is mainly on slidefire/bumpfire/bumpski, and echo/BFS3/3mr type of stuff for now.

[Will1776]

I think panic buying is mainly on slidefire/bumpfire/bumpski, and echo/BFS3/3mr type of stuff for now.

This^

I'm hoping this whole shit show will teach the libs that semi ARs are not automatic and there is a difference. Then maybe they'll stop attacking them so much. Doubtful tho.

[KevDen2005]

CDNN has plenty of 6920s for $799, so I guess that is as good as any proof of no panic.

That sucks, I paid $925 for mine before Sandy Hook.

[KevDen2005]

For those that have experience with a bump stock or slide fire, how easy, or how much practice does it take to dump a 60 round mag or 100 round drum with the cadence such as in the videos of the vegas incident.? Just curious as I have read that it is really hard to do that.

I have one that sits in a box in the basement. It was fun for a day, really. Just wasted ammo and have something different to bring to our yearly family fun shoot. But super easy to use.

[Bailey Guns]

For those that have experience with a bump stock or slide fire, how easy, or how much practice does it take to dump a 60 round mag or 100 round drum with the cadence such as in the videos of the vegas incident.? Just curious as I have read that it is really hard to do that.

Mine works great. Two or three mags practicing and I was able to hit 1-2-3-4-5-6 rounds in succession. Couldn't keep count much past that. And it's pretty easy to dump a 30 on a life-sized target inside of 10 or 15 yards.