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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I'm sure I'm not to the point of calling for anyone's head yet. First, it doesn't involve giving up any firearm or right. Second, it's a suggestion for a "review" of a firearm accessory. This will take some time which means that cooler heads may prevail when it actually happens.
    The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations.
    That doesn't sound like they just looking for a "review".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    That doesn't sound like they just looking for a "review".
    A bump stock does not allow a semi-automatic rifle to function like a fully-automatic rifle (finger pulls the trigger, one pull per shot). A semi-automatic rifle can also be bump fired without the accessory.

    The only accessory that will allow a semi-auto to function like a fully-automatic is an auto sear.
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    The NRA caves on this before the debate even gets started. "Strength" isn't the first term that comes to mind. It's not gonna take a lot of close inspection for the leftists in this country to find a crack in the NRA wall. And when they do... With the NRA crying "uncle" before the fight even starts you can bet the next time something comes up the left will be even harder to beat.

    Here's their statement:

    "In the aftermath of the evil and senseless attack in Las Vegas, the American people are looking for answers as to how future tragedies can be prevented. Unfortunately, the first response from some politicians has been to call for more gun control. Banning guns from law-abiding Americans based on the criminal act of a madman will do nothing to prevent future attacks. This is a fact that has been proven time and again in countries across the world. In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved. Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. In an increasingly dangerous world, the NRA remains focused on our mission: strengthening Americans' Second Amendment freedom to defend themselves, their families and their communities. To that end, on behalf of our five million members across the country, we urge Congress to pass National Right-to-Carry reciprocity, which will allow law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and their families from acts of violence."
    The only positive I see in that is calling for congress to pass concealed carry reciprocity. The rest of it's just flowery prose and platitudes.
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    I am hearing theories they are looking to get it listed as another NFA item like a DD or AOW. Not made completely illegal and unavailable to the public.

    The one possible upside to this might be the promised second grandfathering that we were promised when the initial NFA laws were passsed. Everything could be added to the registry.
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    No more compromise.

    Kill the nfa.

    Kill the Brady bill.

    Kill all restrictions on gun ownership.

    Kill the ability of locals to impose restriction.

    Recognize Constitutional carry.

    Stop caving to make others feel good. There end goal is to ban guns. The NRA's end game needs to be to end any and all restrictions on the 2nd.

    No gun law has ever worked, nor will any new gun *law work.

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    It was a tactical move on their part. Get the ATF to review the legality instead of politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    It was a tactical move on their part. Get the ATF to review the legality instead of politicians.
    So where do ATF administrators stand on the scale, between politicians and pond scum?

    The very idea feeds the leftist agenda that inanimate objects can be evil, as opposed to only the Democrats that wield them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    It was a tactical move on their part. Get the ATF to review the legality instead of politicians.
    Advocacy groups should not make suggestions of even remotely removing or degrading their position of their constituents.

    They should have said, NO!!, there is nothing that can be done. Stop crying over spilt milk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    It was a tactical move on their part. Get the ATF to review the legality instead of politicians.
    This is what's happening.

    We are going to get some form of "bump stock" ban. Period. It would be much better to have the ATF reclassify the things as NFA (honestly surprised that teh agency that declared a shoe lace to be a machine gun actually allowed these things which do basically the same thing in the first place).

    If we allow Feinstien's bill to become law, there's a good chance that any sort of modification to any trigger on a semi-auto firearm will be verboten. No more drop in AR triggers, no more Apex triggers for Glocks/S&W/SIG, no more "trigger jobs" ... we'll all have to suffer with whatever crap trigger our guns come from the factory with because her law bans any trigger part or mod that "increases the rate of fire" without defining what the increase is (a good target trigger that shortens lock time will technically "increase rate of fire).
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