I can see the pros and cons. I think if the Girl Scouts wasn't such a ridiculous farce to begin with, it wouldn't be an issue. Believe me, there are girls that want to learn what the Boy Scouts teach- because the Girl Scouts is all about reinforcing stereotypes and about manipulation, without the benefit of learning self-reliance.
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^This. It's healthy for boys to be boys and do boy things together. Why the frick do we have to keep mixing everything and everyone up? We can't give them ONE hour a week to not worry about girls? Girls and boys get co-ed stuff all day.
All this so-called "equality" nonsense is getting exhausting. Every minute of everyday now has to be 100% ''inclusive".
I will be honest, as a Scout Master, when the first female attempts to join our Troop I'm out.
I believe more will follow and Troops will collapse. When the money starts going away the BSA will regret it.
It is hard enough to raise young boys to be young men, add girls and you have to cater to them. Camp Outs? Nope. Not even going to put myself in that situation.
That's all I gotta say about that.
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This at least was more defensible than the previous change to membership policy allowing in active homosexual adults as unit leaders. I've seen plenty of girls that would have made excellent Boy Scouts. On the other hand, there are situations when I thnik it's appropriate for single-gender activities -- not the least of which is when I'm giving safety instructions. I saw enough boys going for night hikes down to the nearby Girl Scout camp when I was a Scout myself that I know we're not not going to stop nature.
I once thought I would die in a Scout uniform. No more.
No girl can make a good or even bad Boy Scout, because they aren't a boy. As Ben Shapiro said to an SJW person who challenged him on where it says a girl cannot be in Boy Scouts, he replied, "It's in the name, BOY Scouts."
When girls showed up at a Rally in 1909 (https://www.wagggs.org/en/about-us/our-history/), Lord Baden-Powell decided there should be a separate movement for girls. If Girl Scouts has degenerated and girls want to do something more outdoorsy, then they need to form such an organization or engage with co-ed groups who are more in line with Boy Scouts.
Want to shoot? Fine, go to Appleseed.
Want to camp? Tell your father to quit being such a pussy and get his ass in the woods
Want to engage in community betterment, then friggin do it.
Disemboweling one of the last vestiges of boys and young men to engage in a male only activity is not the way to do it, just like some little nancy deciding he wants to sell cookies shouldn't be allowed to join the Girl Scouts.
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This has been in the works for awhile. The Venture section has been coed since it started about 8 years ago,and thats a group program for teens.
I stopped as a leader a few years ago after 20 plus years and I can't believe what has happened to the BSA since then. Unfortunately it's more about money than anything else. Recruitment has dropped significantly in the last decade.
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From the news story I just saw, there will still be boys-only activities. They're starting with the Cub Scouts age, so hopefully the poisonous little girls wont be able to subvert the boys that easily. In 2019, older girls will be able to join in some of the co-ed activities of the Boy Scouts, which will be marked by the complete downfall of civilization. /sarcasm
Honestly, not EVERY person with XX chromosomes comes with a feminist agenda. Some of these kids are just looking to learn something that the Boy Scouts offer. You really expect that the girls participating in Girl Scouts can undo the clusterf*ck that has grown for years? Really? And some of you are quitting being scout masters because 11-year-old girls may join a troop to learn some of the virtues of scouts? I didn't realize those were boys-only virtues. The one opportunity that may be in that girl's life to learn what the (Boy) Scouts have been training generations of boys, teachng them to be good citizens and conscientous adults may be at hand. This may be the opportunity to show girls that there is a different way of viewing the world, instead of through the eyes of the skewed political agenda of the Girl Scounts.
Reading through this thread is pretty dismaying.
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A straw-man wrapped in a flaky puff pastry of (il)logic with feelings filling. Sounds too caloric for my taste, sweeter than Stevia and without the fat of truth to assist in a long term satiation of cultural appetite.
Do you not see that the proponents of this do not give a shit about improving girls' ability to engage in less fluffy activities? No one here, as far as I can tell, has a problem with a girl learning to shoot, camp, hike, etc.
The problem is that instead of fixing their outlet for such things, or engaging in perfectly acceptable alternatives, they wish to invade into the space for boys-only to do such things. Remind you of anything? California license plates and an uptick of (D) registrants in CO, perhaps -- fleeing the reality of liberal economics and civil law, only to foist them upon their new state?
Muslims fleeing the reality of Islam's effect on the culture, only to demand Islamic culture? Leaving Shitcago to escape the violence, only to demand the same factors which led to that violence? Etc.?
So they screwed up Girl Scouts by effeminacy and reducing the power of feminine strength to a cookie sales joke (effeminacy is the vice contrary to the virtue of fortitude; has nothing to do with the feminine per se), instead of building up girls in feminine virtue. They do this by encroaching upon the BSA, a wretched organization at this point, but still has the facade of pre-Modernist Utopianism/pre-Cultural Marxism, traditional social norms -- as such, it must be destroyed.
Again, this is NOT. NOT. N-O-T: about letting girls do anything. This is about the destruction of something which at least points to the idea of a good, out of pure hatred for the good of a line in the sand and what lays beyond it.
Were it not, they would self-lead and reform the Girl Scouts or start/join an organization which does those things. But they're social leeches, not leaders or potential leaders. So all they can do is suck out the life of virtue and leave their host a rotting corpse.
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I'm sorry, are you still in denial about this? It's happened. It's decided. Nothing can be done about it now. The reasoning behind it may have been for open subversion and stealing the Last Bastion of Boyhood, because they essentially ruined what was supposed to be the girl's version of the Scouts. And yes, I'm aware of the fact that they do not give a shit about girls learning less fluffy activities; but I am seeing that instead of people seeing this as an opportunity to teach girls the real virtues, instead of the bullshit that gets pumped into their heads in the Girl Scouts.
What I am saying is this: Scoutmasters have a real opportunity here. Not only can they make a difference with boys, but they could actually begin helping to heal the rifts set in place by the feminazis.
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