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    Quote Originally Posted by thvigil11 View Post
    Apparently the Air Force neglected to upload his file to the fed database. Therefore NCIC didn't know he was a shitbag.
    Well, the requirement WAS there but someone dropped the ball AGAIN. Of course, no one has made a guess that SOME of his weapons may have been purchased YEARS ago, before he went wacky and got in trouble while in the service.
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    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...content=202806

    "He fractured his baby stepson's skull," Christensen says.

    Kelley accepted a deal, pleading guilty to a charge of assault on his wife and to a charge of "intentionally inflicting grievous bodily harm" on the child, Christensen says. His crimes were punishable by up to five years confinement (the military equivalent of a prison term). As part of the deal, Kelley received an 18-month cap on his confinement and was ultimately sentenced to 12 months.

    Kelley's punitive discharge — a bad conduct discharge — did not prohibit him from owning a gun, as a dishonorable discharge would have.

    But under federal law, anyone convicted of "a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year" is prohibited from possessing a firearm. The same is true for anyone convicted of "a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence" under a provision that allows no exception for the military or law enforcement.

    An official at the Pentagon tells NPR's Tom Bowman that a mistake resulted in neither the arrest nor the conviction being listed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, the database that would have flagged him as ineligible to purchase a firearm.

    "This was mishandled by the Air Force Office of Special Investigations at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, where Kelley was serving when he was arrested," Tom reports. "An investigation is now underway, and the Air Force is taking it very seriously, said the source."

    Kelley purchased four guns over a four-year period, according to federal officials; all those purchases were made after his court-martial conviction.

    NPR's Martin Kaste reports that Academy Sports & Outdoors, a store that sold Kelley guns, says it ran a background check on Kelley twice in the past two years. Kelley passed each time, the company says.

    If Kelley's convictions were never uploaded into the system, that could easily explain how he passed. But even if they had been uploaded, there might still have been trouble getting information into the right hands — there's a sort of language barrier between military and civilian justice systems, Christensen says, with different terms for the same kinds of crimes. If the military described a general court-martial for assault, with sentence of one year, the civilian authorities might "never realize" it was a domestic violence conviction punishable by five years, he says.

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    Video of the good guy.

    http://www.4029tv.com/article/man-wh...story/13437943

    It's a bit emotional.
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    "the best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry"

    If you require perfection, humans are not your medium.

    I like that a good guy with an AR stopped a bad guy hell-bent on destruction.
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    The evening news confirmed the scumbag had three gun shot wounds, two from the Good Samaritan, one self inflicted.
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    Steven Crowder has interviewed Stephan Willeford about his shootout with the killer. Powerful interview.

    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Steven Crowder has interviewed Stephan Willeford about his shootout with the killer. Powerful interview.

    Dang that's intense.

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    Brave man; did what he had to do.

    Keep your mags loaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Keep your mags loaded.
    Thought of this when he mentioned grabbing a handful of rounds and loading a mag on the way out the door.

    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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