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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamonkey View Post
    Congratz on the CCNA! I assume R/S?

    I'm CCNP R/S and while the material didn't seem very relevant for my TSC job at the time it has proven useful in my current role in a core networking position. I work in a multivendor environment so we only use open protocols. I'm working on the JNCIP-SP and it's been a hoot.

    I recommend you set a goal of one cert a year as a life long education process. Keeps you learning, keeps the material fresh and always looks good on a resume or at review time. I'd skip the CompTia Net+ unless it's a job requirement. The official book I had was complete with typos, sentences chopped in half and I found contradicting information pages apart. Didn't do anything for my job search at the time.

    Cisco is the gold standard for most IT jobs due mainly to ignorant/lazy hiring managers and HR people. Unless you can get your resume in front of the hiring manager you have to deal with HR. HR goes off check marks. Hiring manager slops CCNA in the title and that's what HR looks for. Doesn't matter if it's even relevant to the job. How many job postings have you come across where they slop "CCNA/CCNP/CCIE preferred" for a $50K job. Do you really expect to land a CCIE for that?

    Explore Juniper, Sec+, some scripting, keep the journey going!
    Got A+, Net+, and Sec+ as part of my Associates. BS has involved Linux+, CCENT, and CCNA. Upcoming is CCNA Security. Linux+ renewed my A+ and CCNA will have renewed my Net+. However, I'm not going to pay the CEU costs for Net+ since CCNA Security will cover Sec+ and it will be expiring in May, and my job only requires Sec+.

    If I stick in a networking track, I'll likely go for a Juniper cert. While I understand the idea of people having pet favorites or even objectively better vendors, the market ultimately will demand what it demands. A quick search on dice for Arista, Cisco, and Juniper reveal Cisco in preference followed by Juniper, and Arista only being mentioned in positions not applicable to my career path at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfortune View Post
    lol Arista. The company that ripped off Cisco so bad that Cisco bugs were found in "their" code.
    yeah, Juniper and Cisco have some serious incest going on with some product lines and code, too...

    Arista focused on some niche that Cisco wasn't really willing to work at... Had them in our lab- but we still don't use them- but lots of our customers do...

    Lately, I'd say that one could do WAY better than copying Cisco code... we haven't had an upgrade without a rollback for some time now... it's getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    yeah, Juniper and Cisco have some serious incest going on with some product lines and code, too...

    Arista focused on some niche that Cisco wasn't really willing to work at... we still don't use them- but lots of our customers do...
    Know how I know you don't know Juniper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfortune View Post
    Know how I know you don't know Juniper?

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    Please tell me where I said I know Juniper... I was referring to the jumping of engineers and developers between companies.

    For example- does the name David Ward mean anything to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    Please tell me where I said I know Juniper... I was referring to the jumping of engineers and developers between companies.

    For example- does the name David Ward mean anything to you?
    I didn't say you did . I was just pointing out that buckshot's comment on learning a "real" vendor is comical considering Arista lost a patent infringement suit to Cisco. I also see that I incorrectly quoted you and not him initially. Apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfortune View Post
    I didn't say you did . I was just pointing out that buckshot's comment on learning a "real" vendor is comical considering Arista lost a patent infringement suit to Cisco. I also see that I incorrectly quoted you and not him initially. Apologies.
    No worries- but what are these guys going to do with all the extra popcorn now?
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    Chevy vs Ford
    AMD vs Intel
    JNPR vs CSCO
    Network appliance vs emc.
    Novartis vs GlaxoSmithKline

    Popcorn time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Chevy vs Ford
    AMD vs Intel
    JNPR vs CSCO
    Network appliance vs emc.
    Novartis vs GlaxoSmithKline

    Popcorn time.....
    I've become a junos snob... as for Cisco...which ver?
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