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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    Yup I get a monthly news letter from Denver Rescue Mission and even they say handouts are a temporary fix and for long term help refer the homeless to them and their programs.
    I'd go a step further and say giving panhandlers money is not even a temporary fix but is instead doing harm to them. They have to hit bottom so they'll seek help and/or straighten their shit out ... keeping them in pocket money keeps them hovering just above bottom ... low enough that their life stinks but not quite low enough to cross the "its time to do something about this" threshold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I'd go a step further and say giving panhandlers money is not even a temporary fix but is instead doing harm to them. They have to hit bottom so they'll seek help and/or straighten their shit out ... keeping them in pocket money keeps them hovering just above bottom ... low enough that their life stinks but not quite low enough to cross the "its time to do something about this" threshold.
    The problem there is lots of those people don't think their life stinks. If Yu have known and or talked to any most of them think your life is the one that sucks. They don't have to answer to anyone or be reasonable for anything. Literally just sit around all day and be high or drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Doesn't change the fact that you are still literally walking through shit when you go downtown. Literally.
    This is another reason why I avoid downtown as much as humanly possible. It's gotten disgusting, especially in the last 8 years or so. And 16th street mall used to be a fairly decent place.
    Quote Originally Posted by ben4372 View Post
    They should track down previous owner of Ink cafe and make him accountable for selling the property to a terrible person. He could have opened a 501c liquor co-op.
    Not sure if joking... but I don't see the Ink Coffee owner being a terrible person. Terrible sense of humor, maybe, but they thought they were on to a good business idea by putting up shop in an up-and-coming (supposedly) trendy area.
    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Irving is correct, mainly population. Colorado is a beautiful place and many, many people want to live here. I'm hoping for an absolutely brutal winter but I don't think we're gonna get one this coming season.

    I have a question for those of you who travel around the metro area alot. How many people do you observe giving money to panhandlers?
    I would say that you can't discount pot 100% as not being a contributing factor. It's definitely not helped...

    I see idiots, er people handing money to panhandlers all the time at the ramp from 36 at Church Ranch. I shake my head every time. I've even had one get mad at me near E Colfax at Quebec because I refused to acknowledge his presence right next to my truck.
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    I dunno about Denver, but I have noticed that ever since the pot legalization there are shitbirds begging at intersections that were not there before.

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    I see people with sign asking money all the way to 14th and I25.

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    KevDen is right. This problem is certain to get worse before it gets better. I think we can all agree since Colorado's legalization of weed we have all felt the massive influx of people moving here (both good and bad). Housing prices have soared to the point that my dreams of actually living in one means I'm going to have to find one that is empty and squat in it and make them evict me. I have noticed a significant increase in homeless people panhandling on street corners throughout the metro area. I don't give them money - ever. Many that I see panhandling appear to be fully capable at working if they chose to do so. I absolutely refuse to go to downtown Denver because it's degraded to a crime ridden shit hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    In the Ranch, I have watched people hold up the exit ramps on a green light giving money. Us working stiffs just want to get home before our kids go to bed (sometimes I don't make it). I guess our time doesn't matter, what's a few more minutes sitting on a Colorado road?

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    Read that one carefully. Linda confuses charity with funding a bum's habits and then pats herself on the back for raising her kids so well because they're just as dumb. But not before digressing into complete stupidity with the AntiFa support.

    Meanwhile, the people who need legitimate charity are deprived of help so Linda can virtue signal.
    There is a sucker born every minute. What a moron though. The very definition of sheeple.

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    Yeah the homeless are so helpless. on e of the bastards helped himself by breaking into my truck and 3 others in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmjohnson View Post
    Yeah the homeless are so helpless. on e of the bastards helped himself by breaking into my truck and 3 others in the neighborhood.
    It would be interesting to see the number of crimes committed by transients vs everyone else. I see a lot of them commit minor crimes when it starts to get really cold so they can be taken to jail and out of the cold and given 3 hots and a cot.
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