Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act vote on Wednesday!

[Gman]

For states that have constitutional carry such as Arizona and Vermont a resident needing to prove to law enforcement that he was lawfully concealed carrying a firearm in a ban state such as Hawaii or Maryland would only need a valid photo identification card issued from the constitutional carry State in which he or she resided.

I'm not holding my breath that anything useful is going to come out of this Senate.

It seemed that the House bill was stating that the photo ID had to be related to CCW from the resident state, not some other unrelated photo ID, like a driver's license. It didn't seem to me that there was inclusion of residents that came from constitutional carry states. Did I misread something in there?

If this somehow does become law, how it's enforced will be "interesting".

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[Joe_K]

I'm not holding my breath that anything useful is going to come out of this Senate.

It seemed that the House bill was stating that the photo ID had to be related to CCW from the resident state, not some other unrelated photo ID, like a driver's license. It didn't seem to me that there was inclusion of residents that came from constitutional carry states. Did I misread something in there?

If this somehow does become law, how it's enforced will be "interesting".

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So then it would be *almost* National Reciprocity. Vermont has NO CCW/CHP/CCP/Licensing requirements or even a structure to issue them. A Vt. Citizen visiting Colorado would only need prove he resides in Vt. A person visiting CA would need a valid Concealed Carry Permit from any State or Territory that issues one, or be from Vt. with a Vt. I.D.,(or whatever Constitutional carry state they are from).

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[Great-Kazoo]

So then it would be *almost* National Reciprocity. Vermont has NO CCW/CHP/CCP/Licensing requirements or even a structure to issue them. A Vt. Citizen visiting Colorado would only need prove he resides in Vt. A person visiting CA would need a valid Concealed Carry Permit from any State or Territory that issues one, or be from Vt. with a Vt. I.D.,(or whatever Constitutional carry state they are from).

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CA has no statewide CCW permit, so it and other states like NJ and NY you're SOL. The bill is for states that have state wide or shall issue CCW permits.
There's that whole states rights issue we rail about.

[Ronin13]

CA has no statewide CCW permit, so it and other states like NJ and NY you're SOL. The bill is for states that have state wide or shall issue CCW permits.
There's that whole states rights issue we rail about.

Here's the real question: Why would you want to go to CA? We keep harping on it, but in reality, outside of having to go for work, why would you go to Commiefornia. Especially now, since it's so hostile (and on fire).

[Jer]

CA has no statewide CCW permit, so it and other states like NJ and NY you're SOL. The bill is for states that have state wide or shall issue CCW permits.
There's that whole states rights issue we rail about.

There is the whole state's rights issue but in this case the federal gov't did what it was supposed to do: step in when a state suppresses rights of it's residents through unjust laws in order the return rights that were infringed upon. Hell, that & protecting our national borders are the only two tasks our federal gov't should be in charge of.

[bobbyfairbanks]

There is the whole state's rights issue but in this case the federal gov't did what it was supposed to do: step in when a state suppresses rights of it's residents through unjust laws in order the return rights that were infringed upon. Hell, that & protecting our national borders are the only two tasks our federal gov't should be in charge of.

Yes I couldn’t agree more. I wish more people would think like you

[Great-Kazoo]

Here's the real question: Why would you want to go to CA? We keep harping on it, but in reality, outside of having to go for work, why would you go to Commiefornia. Especially now, since it's so hostile (and on fire).

We go there every other year to see the daughter and other friends. Most of them who as of wed morning lost everything in the ventura cty fire. CA is real nice to visit if one stays off the coast and away from LA, SF. FWIW: we carry every where we travel in one way or another. I'd ask the same of people who go to Boulder or Denver, outside of work

Yes I couldn’t agree more. I wish more people would think like you

More people do think that way. Unfortunately less of us vote than should.

[Gman]

CA has no statewide CCW permit, so it and other states like NJ and NY you're SOL. The bill is for states that have state wide or shall issue CCW permits.
There's that whole states rights issue we rail about.

CO doesn't have a statewide permit. They're issued by counties. In reading some of the articles in CA newspapers, this bill would also apply to CA, even though they "keep the bar higher" on who can get a permit.

In reading some articles analyzing the bill and its impacts, some state that even CA residents would be able to get a non-resident permit from another state which would allow them to legally carry in CA.

Why would people visit CA? CA really does have some beautiful country. Some of us may have family behind enemy lines and do occasionally want to visit them. The biggest problem in CA is that coastal libtards have been able to manipulate the system in CA to give themselves an advantage. You will usually find quite a different political representation between Western (D) and Eastern (R) parts of CA.

[Great-Kazoo]

CO doesn't have a statewide permit. They're issued by counties. In reading some of the articles in CA newspapers, this bill would also apply to CA, even though they "keep the bar higher" on who can get a permit.

In reading some articles analyzing the bill and its impacts, some state that even CA residents would be able to get a non-resident permit from another state which would allow them to legally carry in CA.

Why would people visit CA? CA really does have some beautiful country. Some of us may have family behind enemy lines and do occasionally want to visit them. The biggest problem in CA is that coastal libtards have been able to manipulate the system in CA to give themselves an advantage. You will usually find quite a different political representation between Western (D) and Eastern (R) parts of CA. How True, especially when you're visiting and the kids down the road ride up on their atv's with rifles slung over their shoulder. Or you're shooting semi's until dark and no one has called the local LE.

You're incorrect. At one time permits were issued by counties, depending on the sheriffs political and personal belief. Then CO passed state wide CCW, meaning it was no longer the discretion of the sheriff to say yea or nay. Unless you failed the BGC the sheriff of your county had to issue a permit. Yes it's issued by the counties sheriffs, however it's a state law no longer the whim of who ever is in office.
In CA there is no state recognized CCW permit, instead they have what CO use to. Issued based on belief , political leaning or who knows who.

[Eric P]

CA has no statewide CCW permit, so it and other states like NJ and NY you're SOL. The bill is for states that have state wide or shall issue CCW permits.
There's that whole states rights issue we rail about.

States should have zero right to regulate rights given in the constitution. I have no problem with federal control destroying local control on this. No limits on the type, size, color, features, or capacity. Same as they should have zero say on what can be printed, spoken, ect..