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    Default Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act vote on Wednesday!

    This is huge! While it's only going to the floor of the House this week, and they anticipate the Senate to be a major hurdle (what with Chuck "anti-Freedom" Schumer leading the charge against it), we could be one step closer to National CCW Reciprocity this week.

    It would be nice to see this actually pass, and my bet is that Trump would sign it into law without question.
    Gun-rights supporters are eyeing a big win this week as a bill that would make concealed-carry permits valid across state lines heads to the House floor -- though it faces long odds in the Senate amid deep-pocketed opposition from gun-control advocates.


    “This is just simple, common-sense legislation that says if you’re a law-abiding citizen … we’re not going to turn you into a criminal just for crossing an invisible state line,” bill sponsor Rep. Richard Hudson, R-N.C., told “Fox News @ Night.”


    Hudson says the bill simply attempts to clarify the patchwork of state laws that confuse citizens who can unwittingly get arrested when traveling from state to state.
    “All I’m saying is, when I cross the state line, I don’t want to automatically become a criminal,” he said.


    The three-term congressman also is quick to point out the measure does not attempt to usurp state and local authority with federal law, nor does it ease background checks on gun purchases.
    The bill has 213 cosponsors, including three Democrats, and backing from 24 state attorneys general.
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    I'm shocked that there are 3 democrats cosponsoring this bill... I'm not holding my breath, but I am hoping for the best!
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    My guess is this passes the house and then languishes in Mitch's Limbo until the end of the session.

    Or it'll have anti gun stuff hidden in it and it'll fail (I haven't read the text of the bill so I don't know)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    My guess is this passes the house and then languishes in Mitch's Limbo until the end of the session.

    Or it'll have anti gun stuff hidden in it and it'll fail (I haven't read the text of the bill so I don't know)
    All the knuckleheads voting on it probably haven't read it either.
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    I just read the text of the bill, as introduced to the committee, and then the follow on bill HR 4477 the "Fix NICS Act". It doesn't have anything hidden in it, as what will be presented for vote. It strictly says that if you hold a CCW permit in State A, you can visit State B with reciprocity where not otherwise prohibited by federal law or where prohibited by private property laws. It also amends the LEOSA text, but it's very minor.
    You can read it here: http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/...-RCP115-45.pdf
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    Section 206 is interesting in that it defines "bump stocks" the way we would and not the weaselly way Feinstien did (that would ban anything that "increases rate of fire" which could include a target trigger or action job).


    I wish they'd have inserted language that allows for a CHL to bypass a BGC, but that would probably undermine its ability to pass.
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    There needs to be something there allowing you to carry everywhere whatever firearms and magazines that you are allowed to carry in your home state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    There needs to be something there allowing you to carry everywhere whatever firearms and magazines that you are allowed to carry in your home state.
    I don't like that at all. If you live in a state with firearm and mag limits, people from out of state could outgun the residents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I don't like that at all. If you live in a state with firearm and mag limits, people from out of state could outgun the residents.
    That's about the most retarded argument I've ever heard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    That's about the most retarded argument I've ever heard...
    How do you figure? Use your words and explain what you find 'retarded' about what you read.

    You're from New York so you get to carry your 7 round mags in your home state. Billy Bob from XYZ state comes to New York and he's packing just like in his home state. Massachusetts has limits to which firearms its citizens can own, but visitors can carry whatever is legal in their home state. What's right about that?

    You're from a state that doesn't require a 'permit' to CCW (Constitutional Carry), so how does reciprocity work?

    I think what this does is illustrate the stupidity of these limits in states with them, including ours, and the difficulties of managing different gun laws in different states. "Shall not be infringed" would make this a whole lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    How do you figure? Use your words and explain what you find 'retarded' about what you read.

    You're from New York so you get to carry your 7 round mags in your home state. Billy Bob from XYZ state comes to New York and he's packing just like in his home state. Massachusetts has limits to which firearms its citizens can own, but visitors can carry whatever is legal in their home state. What's right about that?

    You're from a state that doesn't require a 'permit' to CCW (Constitutional Carry), so how does reciprocity work?

    I think what this does is illustrate the stupidity of these limits in states with them, including ours, and the difficulties of managing different gun laws in different states. "Shall not be infringed" would make this a whole lot easier.
    Don't like the draconian laws of your worthless state, then move, it's quite simple. We have a 15 round mag limit, but I'd not be butt hurt (like you), if someone from a freedom loving state came to visit, and could carry 17 rounds.

    You seem to be worried about being "outgunned", I don't really think anyone interested in "outgunning" you is worried about a silly mag capacity law.

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