Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
The Feds have been caught lying so many times regarding the Bundy et al trial, that the judge has started to drop charges for those involved one by one.

One FBI HRT agent even got caught messing with a crime scene where Levoy Finicum was killed by pocketing his brass and then all five HRT hotshots on scene lied to the state investigators by saying none of them fired their weapons in official reports and local police interviews.

So yeah, theres two recent examples of the Feds being "a lot more careful".
I'm not touching the Bundy Matter with a 50-foot pole. That's a mess on all sides.

Quote Originally Posted by Otterbatcat View Post
Your point is well taken IMO, and I would also add that not only have the .GOV been working on what went wrong in those situations. I would also think that those of whom wish to defy .GOV have also been working on the same things. I have no problem admitting that I have spent some time running through the logistics of breach and defense thereof, among other things.

I'm one dude without that kind of training......and I really do believe that there are some groups of folks in our country that really have their sheet together, and are a lot more prepared than "authority" has anticipated or accounted for. Maybe I'm wrong, it's a gut feeling.
I can't say for the Feds, but I know what the locals go through, and I constantly hope and pray that I never get called on to go head-on against some of those groups that are prepared to face "authorities"... Let's just say it won't be pretty on either side. Going after guns held by those not legally allowed to possess them is never a good task.