Body-Cam Video Of Daniel Shaver Shooting

[Ah Pook]

Not a cop bashing thread!



What went right here, because I see a whole lot going wrong. Five cops and only one shoots and is acquitted.

"You're Fucked" on a service weapon? Really!?



For the record, I sat across the table, at a Thanksgiving potluck, from one of our sheriff's deputies and his now grow kids (who I watched grow up). My next CCW class will be with a local cop. I have respect for the good ones.

[wctriumph]

That should not have happened.

[00tec]

Dont like how the situation was handled.

[Mazin]

Wow........

[Irving]

The guy giving directions wasn't doing a good job, at all. If, as Mark says, the guy shooting wasn't the guy giving demands, I don't understand why. I can't imagine the shame of living with such a colossal fuck-up on my conscience.

I'm not sure how anyone would have handled those stupid directions any better than that poor guy did.

I guess if in doubt, just lay there with hands visible and legs crossed.

[MarkCO]

I believe the reason he was acquitted is multi-dimensional.

1. He was over-charged. Actions do not meet the definition of 2nd degree murder. On a lessor charge, he likely would have been convicted.

2. There were multiple procedural mistakes made by other officers.

3. The shooter was not the one issuing the commands, which were confusing.

This was not a lawful shooting, but the blame has to be spread out and the shooter was not charged with the actual crime he committed. That does not make it a legal shoot, but a bigger miscarriage of justice. Now the prosecutor is also complicit in this mess.

This will all get redone in the Civil suit and I will bet anyone a dollar to a donut, the win will be for the plaintiffs.

PS: Manslaughter in Arizona is : "Recklessly causing the death of another person"

[Drucker]

No matter what it was called and tried as, that was a wrongful death.

[MarkCO]

No matter what it was called and tried as, that was a wrongful death.

Agree. I am pretty amazed at the people who have seen the video, examined the context and are still saying it was justified. Not on here, but in many other places.

[Jumpstart]

Murder

[bobbyfairbanks]

That was terrible. Unfortunately, good training aid to improve future incidents