Shows it can happen anywhere (Gun range employee kills customer)

[Fmedges]

This is why I prefer shooting by myself far away from people. Next time you are at a range just watch people and you'll be amazed at what you see.

[Fmedges]

Eh - there could be story beyond what we know. This could have been an employee taking an x-mark triggered Remington 700 over to the clearing bucket right after a customer brought it in.

You have to handle and clear it some time, and while I agree that this is probably raw stupid, it could be diluted stupid. For example cabelas has a clearing counter with a bullet trap. But you have to pretty much point that gun at the customer service area to USE the clearing trap, which is mounted on the wall in a way you can't possibly insert a muzzle without directing the cuddly end of the gun towards the back office.

This is a common failure in businesses with "safe" gun practices...they have a clearing bucket but its mounted in a place where an ND while getting the gun there results in shit like this.

I clear a weapon as soon as I touch it. Every time. I don't care if I set it down ten seconds ago.

[vectorsc]

I agree - but if a customer brings in a gun in a gun case, and your company policy is to clear a weapon into a bullet trap every time, you would

a) set the gun case on the counter next to the trap.
b) remove the weapon from the case and place the muzzle in the trap.
c) manipulate the action to clear the weapon.

The Remington X-mark trigger for example was known for very high failure rates resulting in non-trigger-actuated discharges of the weapon. So it is VERY possible that the firearm discharged while the employee was moving to clear the weapon in the company approved fashion. I don't think that's what happened here, BUT it is possible.

[KevDen2005]

I think at that point, we would have started referring to an ND as a Function Czech.

Annnnnd If you doooo....

One of the greatest films and best scenes

[Ronin13]

I don't understand the "cleaning" excuse. When I think cleaning, my first thought goes to running a patch through the barrel. Can't do that with a round in it.

So when they use the "cleaning" excuse, what do they mean, like wiping it down with a cloth or something?

The "cleaning" excuse means either they were getting ready to clean it or they were playing with it.

This x1,000!

I clear a weapon as soon as I touch it. Every time. I don't care if I set it down ten seconds ago.

I do the same thing. I always get weird looks at gun stores when I do it right after they do (I don't trust people, I guess). And with pistols, I hand it back to them with the slide locked to the rear.