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    ^^^^ Truth!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    It's not really the same as "immigration". Or it shouldn't be. Having an immigration policy in place where there are standards for allowing people to enter the country based on their skills, training or other benefit to our society is perfectly acceptable and it's what we should be doing.

    Allowing chain immigration, people following family members who've been allowed to immigrate here, without regard to any benefit they may be able to bring with them, creates huge social and other problems in this country.

    I'm all for reforming our immigration system and policies from top to bottom and stopping this process would be a good place to start. But it's gonna take more than that.
    Thank you for providing a voice of reason to this! I agree 100%. Immigrating to another country should be based on what you can bring to the table to benefit that country. Look at other nation's (developed nations, not Somalia) and how they deal with allowing people in (not refugees). Canada has some pretty strict requirements for citizenship, along with Mexico (imagine that!).
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    Coming to the US to live in a segregated community where you never have to learn to speak English or integrate into society isn't the answer. The US has historically had higher standards for immigration and should return to those values.
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    Only a limited number of immigrants are accepted into the country every year. Each time another link in the "chain" comes here, that's a spot taken away from an otherwise worthy person working within the system to immigrate legally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Coming to the US to live in a segregated community where you never have to learn to speak English or integrate into society isn't the answer. The US has historically had higher standards for immigration and should return to those values.
    Amen !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Coming to the US to live in a segregated community where you never have to learn to speak English or integrate into society isn't the answer. The US has historically had higher standards for immigration and should return to those values.
    I agree. I deal with it from time to time. I don't speak spanish fluently... I've gone out of my way to learn more and more- just because I see the trend we're going in. But on the other hand, I don't want to make things any easier for them. They move here, they should learn the language. You'd be a pretty big A-Hole if you moved to Germany and refused to learn German.
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