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People still answer their doors to unknown visitors in 2017?
I've got a smartphone and if you know me well enough to ring my doorbell you can text me your intent to do so before showing up. If you don't, then I don't want to talk to you anyway.
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I had a late knock on the door. It was after 11:00 PM, I was in bed watching Leno when someone pounded on the front door. I got up, put om my pants and went into the front room, stood back from the door as they pounded again. I yelled, who is it. The person responded Santa Ana Police. This was odd as I lived in Garden Grove (found out later that we were only 50 yards from the Santa Ana, Garden Grove, Westminster city borders.
Anyway, I yelled back, what do you want. The guy just said to open the door, he wanted to talk to me. I picked up the phone and called the operator and asked to be connected to the Santa Ana police department. While waiting, the guy pounded on the door again and yelled for me to open the door RIGHT NOW! I said that I was calling the police department and I asked for his name and badge number. I was connected to the police and told them what was going on, gave them my name and address, they said there was no dispatch or call to my address. The officer told me not to open the door and notified the Garden Grove police department and they showed up within 5 minutes. Whoever was pounding on my door was gone and the police kept additional patrols on my street that night.
To this day, I don't know who or why they were at my door but it was not the Santa Ana police.
I never open my door to anyone at odd hours if I can't verify the identity of the person knocking on mt door.
It is sad that this happened and I think that the guy that called in the report should be prosecuted as far as the law will allow. Prayers up for the victim and his family.
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Our front door has a big tempered glass pane, so I know exactly who is on the other side when someone is on the porch. I don't always have a gun on my hip at home, but there is always one available en route to the front door. We've had the police show up a few times, usually asking about a disturbance in the neighborhood. I'll either talk to them through the (locked) storm door (also large tempered glass pane), or step out on to the porch and close the door behind me. It's amazing how polite they are when you're not a dick.
When I lived alone over on Green Mountain many years ago, the Lakewood cops pounded on my door at about 0230 one morning. I looked through the peep hole to confirm they were actually cops, then opened the door. Much to the embarrassment of the two police women who were there, as I slept in the nude, and hadn't bothered to dress, as they sounded quite urgent. The 2 male cops seemed to be mostly amused at their coworker's discomfort. It turns out they were looking for the manager's dipshit son, who lived 3 doors down.
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Not to make light of the situation, but your comment reminded me of thisOriginally Posted by Jer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Swzvm-gXHg
ROFL Exactly!
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Thank cell phones for that, anyone with any area code could be living down the block, or next door. Not speculating what happened or why it did regarding the actual shooting. I doubt when there is a 911 hostages call, the local LE would be hanging around waiting for confirmation that call was legit or not.
Respond balls to the wall or sit back till something was confirmed? Either way they're condemned for their actions.
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Or the 3rd option: Positive confirmation/ID of both situation suspect before escalation.
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Yeah...because when the police arrive on scene of a reported homicide/hostage situation and a guy opens the door and appears to be reaching for something in/near his waistband, after the police have told him to keep his hands visible and in the air, the police have all the time in the world to ask for his ID and confirm whether or not he killed someone and was still holding hostages or is something else going on. Everyone knows that.
Or maybe in future situations where it's not clear what's going on the police on scene could just jump online to their favorite forum where everyone's an expert and start a thread about what they should do to handle the situation? That might work.
Or how about this? If the cops suddenly show up at your house, with guns pointed at you, maybe it's a really good time to just listen closely and do EXACTLY what they tell you to do. I'm just throwin' that out there. But I know the drill...a bunch of people want to be all riled up about the Gestapo and trigger happy cops. But sometimes being stupid around the po-po has some pretty negative consequences.
Do what you're told to do when cops are pointing guns at you and live to sort it out later. Then you can be alive to be outraged about the Gestapo.
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From the article in the OP:
More than 1 a day? Damn. Not insignificant, but there's not a big rash of this going on either I guess. It's a testament to the police that tragedies like this one don't happen more often IMHO.Around 400 swatting cases happen each year
Edit before I get gored:
The cops have to assume that the threat that was called in is real. I imagine they show up in full gear, weapons ready, expecting the worst, but I don't know that. Innocent person opens the door or it gets kicked in and sees guns pointed at them. WTF are lots of people going to do? Freak the f out, that's what. People freaking out in front of cops with guns isn't a good situation.
I'm not a cop, so maybe I'm way off here.
Last edited by GilpinGuy; 12-31-2017 at 08:21.
I was really only thinking of geo location associated with whatever phone was used - area codes are practically useless given cell phones and how far some of us live from where we bought our first cell. Maybe it’s not automatic, but a geoloc even if just based on towers and not gps would be one more thing that could help departments avoid situations like this.
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