9news providing more anti gun reporting...

[KevDen2005]

With a side of race baiting.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/inve...ting/502911439

KUSA - In Las Vegas on Oct. 1, a single gunman opened fire on a crowded concert venue, killing 58 people and wounding hundreds more. It was the single largest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, and devastated the nation.
And while mass shootings focus the national attention, dozens of Americans are killed each day by someone wielding a gun.
9Wants to Know evaluated obituaries and online news articles, with the help of http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ to find out how long, after the start of the Las Vegas shooting, would another 58 people in the United States die on the wrong side of the gun.
One minute after the first shot was fired in Las Vegas, police found 22-year-old Deandre Brown shot dead in an SUV in Shreveport, Louisiana, 1,244 miles away.


After the start of the Las Vegas shooting, 9Wants to Know found that at least 58 more people would die from a gunshot wound over the next 49 hours and 38 minutes, not including suicides.
More than 60 percent of gun-related deaths are suicides, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 5-year fatal injury reports from 2011-2015.
During that time period, the CDC records show more than 105,000 people in the U.S. intentionally killed themselves using a gun.
REPORTER'S NOTEBOOK: Don't think Chris Vanderveen is trying to change your mind when he reports on gun deaths
However, tracking suicide is inherently difficult. Many are not reported by news outlets, and so updated information is not immediately available.
Instead, 9Wants to Know included homicides, accidental shootings and officer-involved shootings to develop the list of the next 58 deaths. These 58 people who lost their lives to gun-related tragedies lived in 23 different states, from Florida to California.
They ranged in age from 5 – 68. More than half were under the age of 30. Three children’s deaths were considered accidental.

Judah Todman, 5, was found in a car outside a preschool in Orlando. Police believe he accidentally shot himself with a family member’s gun.
Azeneth Pina, 14, was shot by another teen while driving around in a van in northeast Dallas. Her older sister told police she witnessed the shooting, and said it was an accident.
Aqawvius De'Jon Clemmer, 11, died from an accidental self-inflicted gunshot wound in Ripley, Mississippi.
A fourth accidental death, that of Kenneth Morris, 28, occurred when Morris fatally shot himself after his gun fell from its holster in his car in Berwick, Pennsylvania. He was reportedly trying to calm his child in the backseat.
Two of the 58 were killed by officers.
Ouachita Parish deputies in Louisiana shot and killed Marquinton T. Brooks, 22, during a traffic stop. Brooks allegedly tried to drive away from the deputies and pulled a gun from his waistband.
Police in Jefferson City, Missouri shot and killed John Loaiza, 40, after he charged at the officers armed with a metal pipe.
At least 36 of the 58 were black.

Daniel Brinkley, a 24-year-old black man, was the 270th homicide in Baltimore this year. That city now has more than 300 homicides reported in 2017.
Keith Minick, also a 24-year-old black man, was killed in Allentown, Pennsylvania, during a daytime shootout. Also killed during the shooting was Richard Vera Jr., a 28-year-old black man.
Theirs marked the 32nd and 33rd deaths after the start of the Vegas shooting.
Prosecutors believe the two men shot and killed each other.

Men are most often the victims of gun violence. Just eight women were among these 58 killed.
Tanisha Huff, 37, was killed in her home in Cincinnati, Ohio. The father of her child was arrested and charged with her murder. She had been granted a restraining order against the suspect just days before the shooting.
Officers believe Pamela Jones Williams, 57, was killed in Mayfield, Kentucky by a boyfriend because of a failing relationship. The shooter, Steven Lyn Yarbrough, is also believed to have shot and killed himself.
9Wants to Know believes that the following list represents a conservative estimate of 58 individuals who were killed by guns in the hours following the start of the Las Vegas shooting. There may have been other deaths that were not reported, and other individuals killed by guns whose names have not yet been released during that time.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yet most of America forgets

In Feb. it will have been 25 years since Waco.





Right , wrong, what ever your stance is on Waco. IMO they could have taken Koresh anytime.

[hollohas]

Yet most of America forgets

In Feb. it will have been 25 years since Waco.





Right , wrong, what ever your stance is on Waco. IMO they could have taken Koresh anytime.

Been seeing a commercial for an upcoming 8 part made for TV movie about WACO. Looks like it's going to favor the side of Koresh, at least that's what the commercials show.

www.paramountnetwork.com/shows/waco#videos

[ray1970]

That guy really should dig into vehicle related deaths. I’d love to see how he spins that.

[KevDen2005]

Chris Vanderveen wrote an entire article on how he's not trying to change your mind...included in the link.

"Felons aren't always responsible for their own murders."

And he used Officer Involved shootings. The vast majority clear the officer of wrongdoing. I know he says he's not trying to change your mind, but my take on it is he is relating people committing violent felonious acts and getting killed in the process to straight up unprovoked murder.

Giving him credit he didn't use a lot of suicide data which annoys me when people do. Those people are making a choice and using a tool at their disposal. They would use other tools if the gun wasn't available.

[theGinsue]

Agreed Ray. I wish I had the resources to determine the number of vehicle related deaths during that same period so I could write a counter article depicting how those senseless deaths were no less tragic - and all for something that is a privledge versus something that is a right. Of course, I'd have to break the article down by race as well, to show how one demographic is unequally a victim to senseless traffic violence.

[Gman]

They need to embellish the stats a little bit and report how many black people were killed by black people, and how many black people were killed by anyone else.

That's what I was going to point out. How many of these are black-on-black crimes that seem to be part of a leftist agenda that suppresses any discussion of an underlying problem? Based on simple math of the racial makeup of the US population, this indicates there's an underlying problem. Nah, let's focus on those inanimate objects. Trying to figure out societal problems is too messy.

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[theGinsue]

Chris Vanderveen wrote an entire article on how he's not trying to change your mind...included in the link.

"Felons aren't always responsible for their own murders."

And he used Officer Involved shootings. The vast majority clear the officer of wrongdoing. I know he says he's not trying to change your mind, but my take on it is he is relating people committing violent felonious acts and getting killed in the process to straight up unprovoked murder.

Giving him credit he didn't use a lot of suicide data which annoys me when people do. Those people are making a choice and using a tool at their disposal. They would use other tools if the gun wasn't available.

The "I'm not trying to change your mind" statement reminds me of the telephone and door to door salespeople who start off with "I'm not trying to sell you anything", but they always are.

As you said Kevin, those intending to commit suicide will use whatever tool they can to get the job done. Blaming the tool is a fools errand, but then again, that whole article wreaks of a fool.

As for the accidental shootings, it's the same as driving a vehicle - if you don't show the proper respect, care and total attention to the firearm or vehicle you run a serious risk of injury or death. Responsible ownership/use is the key, but then again, our society no longer believes in personal responsibility.

Police shootings included in this "analysis"? Well, we could remove firearms from our police officers and that would solve that problem; or would it? I dare to say that in almost every instance where an officer has to use his firearm he wishes he never HAD to. If police officers didn't possess firearms, and if they never used them, the officers and society in general would be a hell of a lot less safe. In most every case where an officer uses his firearm it's because the threat was great enough to require it. If people didn't give officers the NEED to use their firearms this guy wouldn't have anything to write about on the subject, but he conveniently fails to achknowlege that in his article.

Bad people exist. No amount of liberal tears and unicorn dreams will erase that. And those bad people will use anything they can get to achieve their malicious goals. Until such time as unicorns become real and we have no more threat of harm from another I will own & possess firearms to provide for my own safety.

[buffalobo]

Not to sound heartless but 58 out of 300,000,000 is statistically negligible.

Without discussing or including stats from other "causes of death" the author demonstrates the bias inherent in this type article and deserves no consideration of their argument. Completely agenda driven and the agenda is not less death.

Appropriate reply to liberal scumbag media parasite - So what, what you describe is statistically negligible in a free society. Only way to change it is remove freedom. So be honest and say you want to have less freedom not less death.

BTW - When was the last time you looked at deaths caused by drowning or poisoning?

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[UrbanWolf]

Agreed Ray. I wish I had the resources to determine the number of vehicle related deaths during that same period so I could write a counter article depicting how those senseless deaths were no less tragic - and all for something that is a privledge versus something that is a right. Of course, I'd have to break the article down by race as well, to show how one demographic is unequally a victim to senseless traffic violence.

You know, it’s just a matter of time before they use that stat and push for banning human drivers when fully self driven car are made.