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    It's pathetic. They are breaking many laws and are allowed to do it because of limited police/sheriff/ forest service resources. Soon our forests will be full of these scum and nobody will be able to enjoy the natural resources our mountain area have to offer. Give em a warning and a set time and day to be gone. Move in and move them out. With force of needed. My tolerance for these dipshits is ZERO. Bulldoze over their commune and bus their stinky asses across the CO border.

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    The volunteer program is a great idea. Generally, LEO will probably never have the resources to patrol these areas sufficiently in proactive mode, and Zero gutted the USFS to the point where I rarely see a ranger. A sanctioned and legal approach is definitely needed, and it needs to be massive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedMoreAmmo View Post
    The volunteer program is a great idea. Generally, LEO will probably never have the resources to patrol these areas sufficiently in proactive mode, and Zero gutted the USFS to the point where I rarely see a ranger. A sanctioned and legal approach is definitely needed, and it needs to be massive.
    Right up until "volunteer citizen, legally carrying a firearm" is put into a situation where they need to use it. They will then be "armed vigilante, hunting down hapless, harmless, hopeless homeless". The backlash will be deafening.
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    I've conversed with some Boulder SO deputies, and the problem seems to be getting worse. They've even gone into some of these transient campsites and found them abandoned (the "campers" venture into Boulder to panhandle quite frequently). A lot of times they don't have time to wait around, but on some occasions they found campfires still smoldering, and have had to use the transients' water supply to put out the fires- and they aren't stingy with the water. This whole thing is seeming to be a growing problem with no viable solutions. I don't dare go camping anywhere along the front range without at least my sidearm on me at all times. Luckily our favorite spot down in Park County doesn't get a lot of homeless... yet. It's enough to discourage me from camping in/around Nederland or any other parts of Western Boulder County.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    Right up until "volunteer citizen, legally carrying a firearm" is put into a situation where they need to use it. They will then be "armed vigilante, hunting down hapless, harmless, hopeless homeless". The backlash will be deafening.
    Your proposed alternative? Neither I, nor the article OP linked suggested that these are armed vigilante groups, but rather the opposite. No different from cleaning up a trashed out shooting area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    Right up until "volunteer citizen, legally carrying a firearm" is put into a situation where they need to use it. They will then be "armed vigilante, hunting down hapless, harmless, hopeless homeless". The backlash will be deafening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I've conversed with some Boulder SO deputies, and the problem seems to be getting worse. .....
    I have heard of a couple of transient camps being cleared out down in this area, along with an illegal pot grow and some poaching. There isn't a lot of water in this area, except for the South Platte, so I think that helps. I haven't heard of any issues up Waterton Canyon, which is surprising.
    I haven't been down Rampart Range Road in years (mostly because of the shooting bans), but I see Flight for Life heading in that direction almost daily for the last few summers. No doubt there are a few problems down there, and probably more than one transient camp.
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    There are more or less permanent encampments along Boulder Creek right in the middle of town where overnight camping is technically illegal (which is the case anywhere in city limits actually). I volunteered for the annual creek cleanup that Rocky Mountain Anglers sponsors this year and when the cops were called about one major camp (complete with sofa's and recliners), they said "no, that portion of the creek is on CU property". When the CU police were called, they couldn't be bothered.

    If there's no penalty, why would anyone expect these homeless to obey laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedMoreAmmo View Post
    Your proposed alternative? Neither I, nor the article OP linked suggested that these are armed vigilante groups (1), but rather the opposite. No different from cleaning up a trashed out shooting area (2).
    I think you're reading your own meaning into my statement.
    (1) I was never suggesting armed raiding parties.
    (2) Not apples:apples. This is their perceived "home".

    I'm referring to when a group of volunteers on a clean up sweep are harassed/assaulted by a/the "resident/s" of the targeted area, to the point where it results in an armed self-defense scenario. Who is going to be screeching the loudest? Common-sense, productive law-abiding conservatives, or SJW's/the Left/the MSM... And just WHAT do you think they are going to be screeching about?

    I know a lot of locals of all flavors would want to be involved in reclaiming their communities. I suppose you could request the vols to go in unarmed, or possibly LE escorted.
    I think it would be great if the folks who are creating this situation (liberal D's) would do the bulk of the voluntary reclamation of these areas., along with anyone else that wants to help, but I have a feeling that would not be the case.

    Anyway... Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to clarify my original response.
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    What is truly, truly tragic are the hippies trying to raise children like this. Most are neglected, the ones that aren’t are intentionally taught some horrible lessons.
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