Danger in the Forest

[ZERO THEORY]

Why the harsh judgement?

I have tried to reserve judgement for years. And to date, I have yet to see a single one of them signal how many are in their convoy or employ right-of-way etiquette. At the same time, the overwhelming majority are either dusting other passers-by, riding off trail, speeding excessively, cutting the apex off blind corners, etc. etc.

I was in Stevens Canyon/Beef Basin halfway between Moab and Monticello in the middle of absolutely nowhere early last year. A group of side by siders roll up with a Moab city road map and ask for directions because they didn't know where they were at. They had no gazeteers, no compass, no GPS, no land navigation equipment of any kind, and were out zipping around 90 minutes from the nearest emergency responders without provisions. They then tried to pass one of my guys doing an active recovery 'cause they couldn't be bothered to wait, and nearly drove through a winch line that was tensioned. It was the perfect embodiment of every side by sider I've ever seen.

It's a big, dangerous "toy" that people with zero expertise or ability take out with no training or regard.

[crays]

It was the perfect embodiment of every GUN OWNER I've ever seen.

It's a big, dangerous "toy" that people with zero expertise or ability take out with no training or regard.

Sound familiar?

[Irving]

Sound familiar?

I'd say it's probably not far from the truth concerning people who go to the woods to shoot. But that's just me being high and mighty.

[Ronin13]

I'd say it's probably not far from the truth concerning people who go to the woods to shoot. But that's just me being high and mighty.

Watch your steps around here, the slopes can get a little slippery. Not saying Zero Theory's complaints don't have merit.

[ZERO THEORY]

Sound familiar?

Fair point.

[.455_Hunter]

My theory is that many the "problem children" with public land recreation (including shooters, 4x4, OHV, etc) are "first generation" participants, and did not receive mentorship from parents or grandparents on how to conduct themselves responsibly in their youth.

[TFOGGER]

Hey now, let's keep this thread on track: It's for bitching about hippies. You wanna bitch about ATV/UTV drivers, start yer own damn thread...

[ZERO THEORY]

Hey now, let's keep this thread on track: It's for bitching about hippies. You wanna bitch about ATV/UTV drivers, start yer own damn thread...

[encorehunter]

We have our vagrant camps down here around Trinidad as well. Trashing the riverbottom and havING plenty of fire calls down there. It is quite unnerving at times.

As to the utv riders, we aren't all bad. I couldnt even get my Mule to the advertised 26mph going downhill on pavement. No flying around corners here. We don't really joy ride though. It is used for work like it us supposed to be.

[rondog]

Wow. Um. Yep. There was some dog shit involved. And maybe some tannerite to "remodel" their housing. It was fucking awesome and I would do it again. And will.

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