Danger in the Forest

[roberth]

No question about it. And off-road trails are shutting down by the handful each year too, because both inconsiderate/unexperienced 4x4 drivers trash them, and OHV riders (namely side-by-siders AKA the scum of the earth) are constantly doing 50 around blind corners and going off-trail. Twin Cone, for example, is now permanently closed, and there's still an open lawsuit fighting to shut down a few dozen different trails from motorized use all over Pike/Arapahoe National Forests.

I love public land. I hate most of the sections of the public that use it.

That is what I see too.

People driving too fast, making new trails, dumping their trash, etc. etc. The Forest Service is watching and closing trails as a result.

[.455_Hunter]

My theory is that many the "problem children" with public land recreation (including shooters, 4x4, OHV, etc) are "first generation" participants, and did not receive mentorship from parents or grandparents on how to conduct themselves responsibly in their youth.

[TFOGGER]

Hey now, let's keep this thread on track: It's for bitching about hippies. You wanna bitch about ATV/UTV drivers, start yer own damn thread...

[ZERO THEORY]

Hey now, let's keep this thread on track: It's for bitching about hippies. You wanna bitch about ATV/UTV drivers, start yer own damn thread...

[encorehunter]

We have our vagrant camps down here around Trinidad as well. Trashing the riverbottom and havING plenty of fire calls down there. It is quite unnerving at times.

As to the utv riders, we aren't all bad. I couldnt even get my Mule to the advertised 26mph going downhill on pavement. No flying around corners here. We don't really joy ride though. It is used for work like it us supposed to be.