Hawaii False Alarm

[Martinjmpr]

I believe NK's biggest nuke detonation to date has been around 30kt. That's roughly 50% more than the Nagasaki and Trinity bombs (each about 20k) and twice the Hiroshima bomb which was 10 - 13kt.

NK claims to have made a functioning two-stage (thermonuclear, i.e. a hydrogen bomb) but AFAIK they've never actually tested one. Just by way of reference, most modern 2 stage warheads are in the 200kt - 600kt yield range. The biggest device the US ever exploded was a 15mt device in a test called Castle Bravo in 1954.

I'm also not convinced that the NorKs have the ability to (a) make a functioning 2 stage weapon that is (b) small enough and rugged enough to put into the nosecone of a missile that they can then (c) fire successfully and (d) detonate within a reasonable distance of the intended target.

Even if they have MRBMs with nuke warheads, the only thing they can really do with them is use them as a deterrent to a ground invasion. The instant those missiles are fired from the launch facilities their role as a deterrent has failed and all they've really done is to guarantee the utter destruction of North Korea.

Koreans aren't Muslims who have no fear of death because they think they're going to paradise. Lil' Kim knows that once he's dead, he's dead, and that goes for his shithole country and the Kim Il Sung dynasty, too.

[Aloha_Shooter]

People see pictures of the aftermath of Hiroshima and get the impression that the bomb was more devastating than it really was. The firestorm set off by the detonation is what did the greatest damage. That can happen when you make your homes from wood and paper.

Hawaii is tropical. Most homes are made of wood there but even a brick home isn't going to do well with blast effects. Range and insulating geography will help but a 30 kt nuke hitting Pearl Harbor would still be quite devastating. One aimed at Pearl but hitting a bit further east would be even worse.

[Ridge]

They found the true cause; it was malicious advertising!

Also, Japan did the same thing today...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/16/a...ntl1107AMStory

[JohnnyDrama]

They found the true cause; it was malicious advertising!

Also, Japan did the same thing today...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/16/a...ntl1107AMStory

Like calling in a bomb threat to a school or public building....

...I'm also not convinced that the NorKs have the ability to (a) make a functioning 2 stage weapon that is (b) small enough and rugged enough to put into the nosecone of a missile that they can then (c) fire successfully and (d) detonate within a reasonable distance of the intended target....

Meanwhile, a container ship quietly steams toward the mainland....

No, probably just a mistake on the part of the button monitor.

[Ronin13]

It's not taking NK lightly. It's having a tremendous faith in our military's capability to handle the NK threat. Big difference.

I don't have "tremendous" faith in our anti-ballistic capabilities- but having been privy to information regarding some of the classified systems we employ (or did back in '07), I'm pretty confident in our capabilities to thwart any attempt by some 3rd world nuclear power that can't even feed their own troops. Considering KJI's guidance technology is nowhere near where we were in the 1980's, I'm not too worried he'll be able to accurately, or even successfully deploy a ICBM on US Soil. The likelihood is pretty low. Not non-existent, as you only need to be lucky once with nukes.

[BushMasterBoy]

Even if we destroy the incoming warhead 10 miles altitude over Denver, we will still have bomb grade nuclear material scattered over the city. It will eventually kill people and devalue the area. Personally, I don't think he will ever launch, unless we invade the hermit kingdom. He just doesn't want to end up like Saddam Hussein.

[Skip]

Even if we destroy the incoming warhead 10 miles altitude over Denver, we will still have bomb grade nuclear material scattered over the city. It will eventually kill people and devalue the area. Personally, I don't think he will ever launch, unless we invade the hermit kingdom. He just doesn't want to end up like Saddam Hussein.

The Cobalt Bomb was in the vid that Irving posted...

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/166616-...=1#post2112465


Same effect. Fascinating and scary stuff. Almost worse than a blast that immediately kills because it would demobilize us dealing with the slow and steady illness/casualties.

[thvigil11]

I saw NBC new last night had an exclusive tour of the OPs center the day before the fake alert went out. Sounded a little too convenient on the timing for me.

[Ronin13]

I saw NBC new last night had an exclusive tour of the OPs center the day before the fake alert went out. Sounded a little too convenient on the timing for me.

Perhaps...
The reporting on this incident coming out now was that it was a test, and the operator hit the wrong button, live alert, instead of test alert. And there's word that Japan had it's own false alarm. I find that a very odd coincidence- which I don't believe in coincidences. "Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."

[hollohas]

It seems like more than a simple coincidence that Japan made the same mistake today...