Hawaii False Alarm

[68Charger]

So they have a warning but don't inform the public what to do in case of said warning.

I don't know about you, but I don't need a gov't official to tell me what to do when there are incoming nukes on an island...

[BushMasterBoy]

In the early 70's at a nuclear bomber base, I remember seeing this exact notice in my dads office. By then he was the manager of the NCO & O' Clubs.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_n7RltmTdk-...Bthe%2B60s.jpg

[RblDiver]

So, you know how someone initially said it may have been a hack or cruel prank?

I know that it indeed wasn't, but with this new info, hack is...plausible. Why?

Here's a pic of the Hawaii center from AP.


If you zoom in, you get:


Yeah, the person had their password written on a sticky note, which got put into a picture that got put onto the web. And the password was "Warningpoint2" (the name of the agency is Warning Point, so yeah, tough password that).

[Joe_K]

The above is a technique used to convey classified info without typing it. Also used by idiots by mistake.


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[KevDen2005]

The more i think about it the more I think it was an intentional drill to really see readiness or reaction. No one takes the words, 'This is a drill' seriously.

[Martinjmpr]

I believe NK's biggest nuke detonation to date has been around 30kt. That's roughly 50% more than the Nagasaki and Trinity bombs (each about 20k) and twice the Hiroshima bomb which was 10 - 13kt.

NK claims to have made a functioning two-stage (thermonuclear, i.e. a hydrogen bomb) but AFAIK they've never actually tested one. Just by way of reference, most modern 2 stage warheads are in the 200kt - 600kt yield range. The biggest device the US ever exploded was a 15mt device in a test called Castle Bravo in 1954.

I'm also not convinced that the NorKs have the ability to (a) make a functioning 2 stage weapon that is (b) small enough and rugged enough to put into the nosecone of a missile that they can then (c) fire successfully and (d) detonate within a reasonable distance of the intended target.

Even if they have MRBMs with nuke warheads, the only thing they can really do with them is use them as a deterrent to a ground invasion. The instant those missiles are fired from the launch facilities their role as a deterrent has failed and all they've really done is to guarantee the utter destruction of North Korea.

Koreans aren't Muslims who have no fear of death because they think they're going to paradise. Lil' Kim knows that once he's dead, he's dead, and that goes for his shithole country and the Kim Il Sung dynasty, too.

[Ridge]

They found the true cause; it was malicious advertising!

Also, Japan did the same thing today...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/16/a...ntl1107AMStory

[JohnnyDrama]

They found the true cause; it was malicious advertising!

Also, Japan did the same thing today...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/16/a...ntl1107AMStory

Like calling in a bomb threat to a school or public building....

...I'm also not convinced that the NorKs have the ability to (a) make a functioning 2 stage weapon that is (b) small enough and rugged enough to put into the nosecone of a missile that they can then (c) fire successfully and (d) detonate within a reasonable distance of the intended target....

Meanwhile, a container ship quietly steams toward the mainland....

No, probably just a mistake on the part of the button monitor.

[Ronin13]

It's not taking NK lightly. It's having a tremendous faith in our military's capability to handle the NK threat. Big difference.

I don't have "tremendous" faith in our anti-ballistic capabilities- but having been privy to information regarding some of the classified systems we employ (or did back in '07), I'm pretty confident in our capabilities to thwart any attempt by some 3rd world nuclear power that can't even feed their own troops. Considering KJI's guidance technology is nowhere near where we were in the 1980's, I'm not too worried he'll be able to accurately, or even successfully deploy a ICBM on US Soil. The likelihood is pretty low. Not non-existent, as you only need to be lucky once with nukes.

[BushMasterBoy]

Even if we destroy the incoming warhead 10 miles altitude over Denver, we will still have bomb grade nuclear material scattered over the city. It will eventually kill people and devalue the area. Personally, I don't think he will ever launch, unless we invade the hermit kingdom. He just doesn't want to end up like Saddam Hussein.