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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    One of our nations important monuments, it should be kept open.
    As compared to? Not looking to debate, just curios what one deems more important than another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    That cost may include the ferry service that is operated from NJ and NY to the island on a regular daily basis.
    Ferry service are run by independent entities. The Statue of Liberty ferry service is one "authorized" by the NPS. Like concessions at ball parks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Ferry service are run by independent entities. The Statue of Liberty ferry service is one "authorized" by the NPS. Like concessions at ball parks.
    I realize that but I was just trying to provide one possible explanation for the stated daily cost. Most of the National Parks are "fee areas" now so not all of the cost is borne by the taxpayers. Much of the labor done at parks and monuments are provided by volunteers. Last time I checked, Department of the Interior does not have a significant portion of the federal budget.
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    One place to make cuts is things like this.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-in-kenya.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    So the situation can be in three weeks+, that she is forced to deliver the kid alone in a foreign country - unable to speak the language - while his leave is cancelled and he is forced to work without pay. You don't see that in the private sector. Ironically, he could take time off without pay for e.g. flu, but being there for the birth of your child during shutdown is unacceptable.
    Interesting. Hope it works out okay. $10 says NO ONE will shame her for not speaking the language of a country in which she's living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Interesting. Hope it works out okay. $10 says NO ONE will shame her for not speaking the language of a country in which she's living.
    I, for one, won't be shaming her or anyone else who is in the country because their job put them there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    As compared to? Not looking to debate, just curios what one deems more important than another.
    I feel it's a very important one because it signifies diplomacy and the creation of our nation (as it was a gift to the US from France, who helped us win our independence from Britain). Also it has signified hope for generations of immigrants who came here to prosper, escaping dull, meaningless lives from Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    Here's another catch 22 for this shutdowns that would NEVER affect a private sector worker.
    On the flip side, federal government workers generally also don't have to worry about their employer going bankrupt or "downsizing" their job out of existence.

    Lots of people who lost their jobs during the 2007 - 2010 recession would love to have had that kind of job security. So it's a tradeoff.
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    Per your last line -- that's for contractors right? I wasn't aware .civ had to reapply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Per your last line -- that's for contractors right? I wasn't aware .civ had to reapply.
    Some Federal jobs are temporary. You see that in the descriptions at USAJobs - it will say something like "temporary appointment not to exceed 2 years" or something similar.

    I believe it has to do with whether or not Congress appropriates the $$ to keep the job funded.

    Full disclosure: I've been a federal (GS) employee since 2006.
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