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    So, have any of the .gov employees here actually missed a paycheck yet?

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    I'm self employed. Who's wrung their hands for any of us ever. We take all the risk and pay your wages.

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    C-SPAN is live now, Schmuckie Schumer is flapping his gums right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post

    My point in all this is... why all the fricken DRAMA about govt workers on a PAY DELAY?
    Thats a mighty broad brush you are playing with.

    The last shutdown in 2013 that led to sequestration I received no back pay from the Military. Different parts of the military/govt work under different rules.

    We didn't fly airplanes. People lost valuable training to sharpen their skills right before our 2013 Deployment.

    Just like then, we have yet another deployment coming up. Hopefully this mess will end soon and everyone walking out the door will be 200% ready for anything the bad guys can throw at us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    So, have any of the .gov employees here actually missed a paycheck yet?
    Not for us. I'm not sure about the military folks and their pay schedule, but for us, the shutdown happened mid-pay cycle. I'm actually worried about some young Army friends of ours- the wife just had a baby and he had to get a replacement car because his daily driver gave up the ghost. I'm pretty sure their savngs are close to the bone.

    The worrisome thing is that the Dems actually drew the lie in the sand in choosing DACA over citizens, making the sweeping statements that both said, "You citizens don't count and are the easiest to steal from at the moment to make our point," and rendered the agreement a working society enters into (I rent you my time and expertise, you pay me for that,) null and void in an instant. When this happens outside of the government, employers are sued. For some reason, it's looked at as permissable here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    C-SPAN is live now, Schmuckie Schumer is flapping his gums right now.
    UGH. That guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    I realize there are many like yourself, who more than likely loathe us government employees, and that's fine, I don't need you to care for me, or the work I do (even tho you should, as it's your tax dollars paying me, for a service that I'm certain most everybody wants to continue, and there isn't a good private sector equivalent available).
    I don't have any ill will toward the employees, but they are 'overhead' in a bloated Federal bureaucracy. I would prefer the Fed. Govt. be much smaller where there were fewer opportunities for employment/recipients of tax dollars. Less govt. is better for business which would result in more opportunities in the private sector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I don't have any ill will toward the employees, but they are 'overhead' in a bloated Federal bureaucracy. I would prefer the Fed. Govt. be much smaller where there were fewer opportunities for employment/recipients of tax dollars. Less govt. is better for business which would result in more opportunities in the private sector.
    There's a great deal that could be done to make it better, I agree. But actions like this are akin to throwng the baby out with the bathwater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    Not for us. I'm not sure about the military folks and their pay schedule, but for us, the shutdown happened mid-pay cycle. I'm actually worried about some young Army friends of ours- the wife just had a baby and he had to get a replacement car because his daily driver gave up the ghost. I'm pretty sure their savngs are close to the bone.
    USAA is giving interest free payroll advances to military.

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/20/news...own/index.html

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    Sorry for all of you guys dealing with the situation on a personal level. I certainly have been accused of not being compassionate, but usually by liberals. The government is fubar right or left. 2+2=4
    Last edited by sampson; 01-21-2018 at 12:54.

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