Looming Government Shutdown (again)

[ray1970]

I'm gonna throw out a wild guess and venture that a lot of her frustration stemmed from issues with co-workers, resource allocation, and clueless administration. She's probably also doing similar work in the privates sector now for more money, with less frustration.

Pretty much spot on. You must be psychic.

The other thing was she was pretty much the only one working there that wasn’t related to someone else. I remember she had an issue with a coworker once but it didn’t do any good to complain because that persons supervisor was her aunt.

My company has pretty strict rules about hiring family. Apparently the government supports nepotism.

[Gman]

Simple. No budget passed by Congress by x date, president sets budget for the year.

Constitutional separation of powers. There's a reason that the purse strings are as close to the people as possible. One just has to think back to the Obama admin. to see how that could have been a bad situation. I can also see how something like this could be 'gamed' to allow the party of the President to make budgetary allocations outside of the wishes of the people. Then we're getting into a situation where we have taxation without representation.

[ray1970]

Uninformed voters...might not vote.

I think there’s a better chance of me seeing a legitimate zombie apocalypse in my lifetime than seeing uninformed voters stay away from the polls.

[Irving]

No voter is completely informed.

[TFOGGER]

No voter is completely informed.

but a large number are utterly uninformed, except for what they see on facebook and occupy democrat...

[Irving]

Right, even the ones that think they are informed.

[TheGrey]

No offense intended. Government should not be the largest employer in the country. Those same hard working people could just as easily be employed in the same capacities in the private sector(and be better compensated for their hard work), if the government were to divest itself of its powers not specifically mandated by the constitution. Just as many that work for the government are dedicated and hard working, many are inherently lazy, unproductive, and dictatorial when granted the slightest bit of authority. Bureaucracies provide a refuge for a lot of people too lazy or incompetent to succeed in the private sector.

No, they could not. There are specific jobs that cannot be relegated to the private sector- such as jobs involving the defense of the union, and areas that are not privatized.

But we are dealing with things that ARE, not what should be, according to your line of thought.

Private sector jobs also have those same lazy, unproductive, and incompetent social loafers. The government does not have a monoploy on slackers.

[TheGrey]

I'm gonna throw out a wild guess and venture that a lot of her frustration stemmed from issues with co-workers, resource allocation, and clueless administration. She's probably also doing similar work in the privates sector now for more money, with less frustration.

I actually worked at a company that had those exact conditions. It was hopeless.

[sroz]

No, they could not. There are specific jobs that cannot be relegated to the private sector- such as jobs involving the defense of the union, and areas that are not privatized.

But we are dealing with things that ARE, not what should be, according to your line of thought.

Private sector jobs also have those same lazy, unproductive, and incompetent social loafers. The government does not have a monoploy on slackers.

Excluding military, what positions in defense of the Union are you referencing? I have worked military, government and civilian contractor and agree there are slackers in all. The difference being there is a much higher probability that the civilian slacker will be dealt with. It is much more difficult in the government.

We all know there are hard workers and slackers within each group. It is not a an affront to gov. employees.

[OtterbatHellcat]

we need better educated and motivated voters

As indicated, it's pretty slim for people that have looked stuff up and done some research independently to completely have their shit together, but at least they tried. This is the type of person that I try to be when I vote....and then again, nobody is perfect.

There are plenty of motivated voters that have zero effing idea what they're voting on, and whom it actually hurts or helps, or WHY those things can actually be bad for them because the front end SOUNDS GOOD to them.