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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    I didn't modify the trigger, it came that way. Prove that it didn't come that way when I bought it.

    Simple solution to stupid laws.
    While the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, I doubt it'd be difficult to subpoena a Smith & Wesson spokesperson to testify they don't put a Geissele 3.5 lb two-stage trigger in their base level M&P Sport II AR-15 models.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    While the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, I doubt it'd be difficult to subpoena a Smith & Wesson spokesperson to testify they don't put a Geissele 3.5 lb two-stage trigger in their base level M&P Sport II AR-15 models.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Suspended sentences for illegals, 25 - life for gun owners.
    it's pathetic, but thats want these delusional liberals want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    While the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, I doubt it'd be difficult to subpoena a Smith & Wesson spokesperson to testify they don't put a Geissele 3.5 lb two-stage trigger in their base level M&P Sport II AR-15 models.


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    But what prevents an out of state gun dealer from making the mod out of state and selling it to a Hawaiian. Or custom built Ads, ect.

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    But these silly do nothing, feel good gun laws will never be enforced except as add on charges.

    These gun mag and mods should not be illegal, they should be sentence guideline enhancers. Punish the criminals that use these scary item more instead of infringing on law abiding freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    But what prevents an out of state gun dealer from making the mod out of state and selling it to a Hawaiian. Or custom built Ads, ect.
    Arguably, the way some of these laws are written, an AR15 with a cyclic rate of anything above zero would be illegal.
    The lower receiver is considered a firearm without a trigger group, therefore, it is incapable of firing. Add a trigger to it, and you are increasing its rate of fire.

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    Default Hawaii introduces trigger modification bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    But what prevents an out of state gun dealer from making the mod out of state and selling it to a Hawaiian. Or custom built Ads, ect.
    why would a gun dealer spend $249 to upgrade the trigger on an AR? It doesnt increase the value necessarily.

    I think a better example would be what if a gun dealer acquired an AR-15 from a seller and then sold it to a Hawaiian already modified.

    I dont know what prevents them, but you can bet Hawaii will hold the current owner responsible.



    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    But these silly do nothing, feel good gun laws will never be enforced except as add on charges.

    These gun mag and mods should not be illegal, they should be sentence guideline enhancers. Punish the criminals that use these scary item more instead of infringing on law abiding freedoms.
    agreed. your post makes me lust for law school because 2A law is something I want to specialize in. Hope to be starting paralegal school next year, then on to law school.


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    Too bad they don't legislate triggers on ballistic missle warmings
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    Default Hawaii introduces trigger modification bill

    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    Too bad they don't legislate triggers on ballistic missle warmings
    and too bad they dont legislate liberals being triggered for that matter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    and too bad they dont legislate liberals being triggered for that matter.


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    And deprive us of an apparently inexhaustible source of entertainment?

    I tend to enjoy watching them melt down, particularly as it does them no favors and just serves to further expose their insanity amd hipocracy for the world to see...

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