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    You shouldn't need a WD hitch setup for that trailer, but it wouldn't hurt.

    That said, if you do go WD, I've been very happy with this 6K Fastway I used for my boat (3800#) behind my fiver. Mostly just for the sway control, so I had it loaded about as light as I could just to get friction on the bars for sway control and it helped with sway and the vertical snake. https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...2-00-0600.html

    It's a near knock-off of the Equal-i-zer, but the bars are way easier to remove.

    I got lucky and found one on CL for $75 when I was looking.

    DON'T buy anything with chains, ugh, and they're not surge brake compatible.

    What's the tongue weight?
    What did you have loaded in the Burb?
    Do you have oversize, spongey tires?
    Did you run the tire pressure up some for towing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    That said, if you do go WD, I've been very happy with this 6K Fastway ....It's a near knock-off of the Equal-i-zer, but the bars are way easier to remove.
    I hope they are close. They are both made by the same company. The Fastway E2 is the economy line of the Equalizer hitch.

    Fastway Trailer Products – Progress Mfg. Inc.
    353 South 1100 West
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    Equal-i-zer Hitch/Progress Mfg World Headquarters
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    Phone: (800) 478-5578

    Both are great. Any WD will help you with the dropping of the back of the truck. A lot of times people forget and load up the back of the truck as well greatly decreasing the rear ride height in addition to the trailer. Sounds like your are a great candidate for WD and suspension upgrade.

    Have you looked at Active suspension from Roadmaster. It only works when you have a load and doesn't effect the unloaded truck ride with no air bags to leak or puncture.
    I recommend looking into the Roadmaster Active Suspension instead of airbags. If you want more clarification on their system give them a call, they are great to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    You shouldn't need a WD hitch setup for that trailer, but it wouldn't hurt.

    That said, if you do go WD, I've been very happy with this 6K Fastway I used for my boat (3800#) behind my fiver. Mostly just for the sway control, so I had it loaded about as light as I could just to get friction on the bars for sway control and it helped with sway and the vertical snake. https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...2-00-0600.html

    It's a near knock-off of the Equal-i-zer, but the bars are way easier to remove.

    I got lucky and found one on CL for $75 when I was looking.

    DON'T buy anything with chains, ugh, and they're not surge brake compatible.

    What's the tongue weight?
    What did you have loaded in the Burb?
    Do you have oversize, spongey tires?
    Did you run the tire pressure up some for towing?
    Brutal and others have provided great info here. I used the stabilizers with chains on a near 5K lb Terry which was much bigger than yours, and I loved them. I also don't see why you'd need them with the trailer you pictured....unless it's loaded too heavy on the tongue, or, the Burb was too ass heavy when it was all hooked up and ready to head out...or both were happening.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    You shouldn't need a WD hitch setup for that trailer, but it wouldn't hurt.

    That said, if you do go WD, I've been very happy with this 6K Fastway I used for my boat (3800#) behind my fiver. Mostly just for the sway control, so I had it loaded about as light as I could just to get friction on the bars for sway control and it helped with sway and the vertical snake. https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...2-00-0600.html

    It's a near knock-off of the Equal-i-zer, but the bars are way easier to remove.

    I got lucky and found one on CL for $75 when I was looking.

    DON'T buy anything with chains, ugh, and they're not surge brake compatible.

    What's the tongue weight?
    What did you have loaded in the Burb?
    Do you have oversize, spongey tires?
    Did you run the tire pressure up some for towing?
    The Fastway 6k model is exactly the one I was looking at.

    As far as tongue weight, we haven't weighed it (just got the trailer, literally, yesterday afternoon) but given that the trailer weight is close to 3000 I'd guess 300 - 450 (10 - 15%)

    The 'Burb does have slightly oversize tires (285/75/16, nominal height about 33".) Stock size was 265/70/17. About 2" of lift with Z71 springs in the rear.

    Our first camping trip is to Bear Creek in a couple of months so I may see how it does on just the air bags for now.

    Thanks for the input, everybody!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    As far as tongue weight, we haven't weighed it (just got the trailer, literally, yesterday afternoon) but given that the trailer weight is close to 3000 I'd guess 300 - 450 (10 - 15%)
    Late to the game but I've learned that you cannot trust the manufacturer's specs with regard to weight. Also most travel trailers are well above 10% tongue weight, more like 15-20%. You really need to take it to a CAT scale, not only to get the real weight of the (loaded) trailer, but also to ensure you've got the weight distribution dialed in correctly.

    This trailer is pretty light so you're probably fine but I still recommend checking out your truck's payload rating (on a sticker in the driver's door jamb). Depending on how many people and how much stuff you cram in there for a trip (plus the tongue weight and hitch weight) you could exceed it.

    Congrats on the camper! I hope you enjoy the heck out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    Late to the game but I've learned that you cannot trust the manufacturer's specs with regard to weight. Also most travel trailers are well above 10% tongue weight, more like 15-20%. You really need to take it to a CAT scale, not only to get the real weight of the (loaded) trailer, but also to ensure you've got the weight distribution dialed in correctly.
    This. Don't go by common thumb rules. RV makers put more time into fancy layouts than they do properly locating the axles, or they use the same frame/axle systems for different RVs and the weights are all screwy.

    The WD hitch is a huge change in towing behavior. The bumper droop at bumps is greatly diminished and feels much more solid on the road. Don't get too anal on the friction bar sway control. The WD system is sway resistant without it due to the spring bar friction. Most people I know with the WD don't use the sway control. I have one that came with my hitch (craigslist purchase) and it has never been on the truck. Try towing without it first. I think you will be surprised how much the WD alone improves the feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    This. Don't go by common thumb rules. RV makers put more time into fancy layouts than they do properly locating the axles, or they use the same frame/axle systems for different RVs and the weights are all screwy.

    The WD hitch is a huge change in towing behavior. The bumper droop at bumps is greatly diminished and feels much more solid on the road. Don't get too anal on the friction bar sway control. The WD system is sway resistant without it due to the spring bar friction. Most people I know with the WD don't use the sway control. I have one that came with my hitch (craigslist purchase) and it has never been on the truck. Try towing without it first. I think you will be surprised how much the WD alone improves the feel.
    I presume you're talking about the shock-absorber looking thing? Yeah, I wasn't planning on using one. The WD setup that has been recommended (the 6,000lb E2) supposedly has sway control characteristics due to the square bars that provide some friction and keep the trailer from wiggling around too much.

    As I said above, with a Suburban I'm not as worried as I would be if I had a smaller tow vehicle, but I think just for the peace-of-mind I'm going to go ahead and get the WD system. Depending on how that works I may or may not use the air bags.
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