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    I am left eye dominant. 20/20 vision in my left eye.
    Right hand dominant 20/400 in my right eye. I can a contact lens to correct.


    Cherry Creek State Park Family Shooting Center
    Dec 3, 2017
    S&W M&P 15 Sport II
    only mods were upgraded pistol grip and CTR-400 Magpul rear stock
    Stock trigger, BCG
    Magpul Iron Sights (No scope)
    Sitting Down, Rifle barrel on a wood block
    150 rounds expended
    Shooting left handed
    10-15 mph winds
    Pics are in order

    50 yards (Final Results)
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    100 yards (Final Results)
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    Today at Shoot Indoors

    Free Standing
    Nothing to brace against or lean against
    Iron Sights
    Geissele SSA-E 3.5lb two stage trigger
    CTR-400 Rear Stock, upgraded pistol grip
    150 rounds expended

    Pics are in order
    15 yards (Left target)
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    10 yards (Left target)
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    15 yards (left target)
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    50 feet (right target)
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    Self-Evaluation: Wanted to go to Cherry Creek today but didn't get the chance, so I settled for an indoor range nearby. I can definitely see a grouping difference between the stock trigger and the Geissele trigger results. I am looking forward to putting a scope on this thing this week or next weekend. There should be a marked improvement. I still find myself flinching when I squeeze the trigger, not sure how to overcome my shot anticipation. Once I grow accustomed to the two-stage aspect of the Geissele, I think my grouping will tighten up considerably. Sometimes I hurried and forgot to two-stage, but on the ones I did it seemed like the shots went where I wanted them to go. Breathing remains an issue and I am hurrying my shot and not exhaling and then squeezing the trigger. With the flinch/anticipation, I'm jerking the trigger. I have some things to work on to improve.

    I should have bought a bigger target to shoot at. I think it was an issue trying to see that small of a target from 20 yards out. Overall, I'm ok with the results considering I don't have optics yet. I'm confident I can hit a target to 100 yards with iron sights if I had to.

    My other AR-15 was never much fun to shoot and it didn't have a quality trigger in it and I was all over the place. This is the first AR I've shot with a custom trigger and i can already see a HUGE difference. Before, I just shot to shoot and thought if I was hitting the target, I was doing ok. Not so much really. Now once I put an optics on, I can challenge myself to get those shot groupings as tight as possible and put them exactly where I want them.


    I welcome all of your constructive evaluations/critiques and comparisons.

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    For flinching with a rifle indoors, consider your ear protection. If you're wearing muffs, try plugs underneath as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    For flinching with a rifle indoors, consider your ear protection. If you're wearing muffs, try plugs underneath as well.
    i had the same problem at Cherry Creek. I'm just wearing a pair of orange foam earplugs. Maybe I should dig my shooting earphones out of whatever box they're hiding in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    i had the same problem at Cherry Creek. I'm just wearing a pair of orange foam earplugs. Maybe I should dig my shooting earphones out of whatever box they're hiding in.
    I hate shooting rifles with ear muffs. Hard to get a good cheek weld. Usually end up bumping the right ear muff out of position. I much prefer ear plugs for shooting long guns.

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    Practice practice and practice dry fire will get you really far really fast.
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    Great choice on trigger, probably the single best upgrade you can make....



    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks View Post
    Practice practice and practice dry fire will get you really far really fast.
    ^^^This is the strongest recommendation I can make to help fix the "flinch".

    One trick you can do (works equally well with rifle or pistol), is to pick up small rail-mount micro-laser (~$50 on Amazon), and use that for your dry fire excersises. Focus the laser on a small but distinct spot while running your dry fire (make sure it's properly sighted-in), and focus on keeping the laser from moving off-target through the trigger-pull. This will help immensely with follow-through (and eliminating unconscious pull/push off target), but will also help train-out the flinch response....

    Another good approach which I've seen produce results is to pick up a 22lr and practice with that for a while, as it's a bit more gentle on the ears...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    I welcome all of your constructive evaluations/critiques and comparisons.
    Nice pattern. What kind of shotgun were you shooting?

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    does it hurt anything to dry fire?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    does it hurt anything to dry fire?


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    Not on AR, unless there isnt an upper on it (potentially)

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    Make sure you put brass in rim fire chambers. Modern guns you can dry fire all ya want
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