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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    PSA AKs are starting to show abnormal failures.. Have never heard of a real AK folder crack.. but here is a PSA AK folder that has cracked.. A number of other issues out there, broken extractors, abnormal peening and wear on bolt/trunnion contact surfaces..

    Basically no one in the US has figured out how to build something the rest of the world has been building for roughly 67 years or so.
    They know how, but can't be price-competitive against giant government-subsidized arms factories in foreign lands, with our low production volume and higher labor and materials costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    They know how, but can't be price-competitive against giant government-subsidized arms factories in foreign lands, with our low production volume and higher labor and materials costs.
    I agree it costs more to do it right but the prints and production specs are widely available so there shouldn't be any R&D costs. In the case of IO and Century they have to know their product is a heaping piece of shit and they just don't care.

    Arsenals sell for over $1k.. these American companies keep trying to sell in the $600 range.. Plenty of room for them to charge more if they can make a quality product. People pay over $2k for Rifle Dynamics AKs so..

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    I agree it costs more to do it right but the prints and production specs are widely available so there shouldn't be any R&D costs. In the case of IO and Century they have to know their product is a heaping piece of shit and they just don't care.

    Arsenals sell for over $1k.. these American companies keep trying to sell in the $600 range.. Plenty of room for them to charge more if they can make a quality product. People pay over $2k for Rifle Dynamics AKs so..
    It's not about R&D - it's about capital outlay - millions of dollars for big honking machines and a factory dedicated to making AKs in the massive quantity necessary to get a quality product's price point down that low. Clearly the US market demand does not support the capital investment required to make quality AKs at a price point you deem appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    It's not about R&D - it's about capital outlay - millions of dollars for big honking machines and a factory dedicated to making AKs in the massive quantity necessary to get a quality product's price point down that low. Clearly the US market demand does not support the capital investment required to make quality AKs at a price point you deem appropriate.
    Well now that everyone owns five or six AR platforms maybe they are gonna do the same with AK style rifles.

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