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    The looming shutdown was not averted.

    Frustrated Republicans accuse Paul of forcing pointless shutdown
    Frustrated Senate Republicans lashed out at Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) Thursday evening for his refusal to allow a vote on a budget deal, a move that could force a temporary government shutdown.

    Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the No. 2 Senate Republican, warned Paul during a heated back-and-forth on the Senate floor that he would be to blame for shutting down the government.

    "I don't know why we are basically burning time here while the senator from Kentucky and others are sitting in the cloakroom wasting everybody's time and inconveniencing the staff," he said.

    Cornyn added that Paul "will effectively shut down the federal government for no real reason."

    Cornyn tried to set up an initial vote on the two-year budget deal, which includes a stopgap measure to fund the government, at 10:30 p.m., 11 p.m. 11:30 p.m., midnight, 12:30 a.m. and 1 a.m. But Paul objected to each request.

    Congress has to pass a bill to keep the government open by midnight to prevent the second lapse in government funding this year.
    But under the Senate's rules the earliest an initial vote on the two-year budget deal can take place is early Friday morning unless every senator agrees to speed up the vote.
    Paul refused to allow the vote to speed up unless he was given a vote on his amendment to keep budget caps in place.

    But Cornyn warned after the floor fight that GOP leadership would not give into his demand, saying it would "reward bad behavior."

    "I understand he wants to make a point and he's done that, but to shut down the entire federal government at midnight tonight is just grossly irresponsible," he said.
    Leadership had offered to let Paul raise a budget point of order, which would have also gotten him a roll call vote.

    Cornyn was the fourth GOP senator that tried to speed up the budget vote but was blocked by Paul.

    "You can make a point all you want but points are forgotten. There aren't a lot of history books written about the great points of the U.S. Senate," said Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.).

    Paul blocked two requests by Tillis to speed up the vote on the budget agreement.

    Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), who presided over parts of the floor debate, said the looming shutdown was an example of the "total dysfunction" and "ridiculous" but blamed both sides.

    "I don't know why we didn't vote on his amendment. It would have been ... the right thing to do. But at the same time he's not getting a vote. It kind of seems ridiculous to, you know, shut down the government for even an hour or two," he said.

    Paul has been on and off the Senate floor outlining his objections to the Senate budget deal for hours.

    The two-year budget agreement would increase the budget caps by roughly $300 billion and also raise the debt ceiling through March 2019. It also includes a stopgap funding measure to keep the government open through March 23, which would give lawmakers time to draft a longer spending bill.

    Asked about the standoff, Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) quipped: "I'm just having a ball. Just having a ball. Living the dream."
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    The Senate has voted after the shutdown and has a deal to keep the govt. funded until March 23rd. The House vote is next.

    ETA: Passed in the House. On to the President for signature.

    If signed, the game begins anew March 23rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    The Senate has voted after the shutdown and has a deal to keep the govt. funded until March 23rd. The House vote is next.

    ETA: Passed in the House. On to the President for signature.

    If signed, the game begins anew March 23rd.
    *inarticulate screaming*

    This is insane!
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    Grift-brand bread and circuses.
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    It takes time for planning this action. They didn't realize the deadline was that close
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    It lasted for 5 hours, with Paul Ryan objecting to the massive additonal amount as everyone played "dogpile" on stuffing the budget. But it's been signed and in theory, we're good for another 2 years before they realize "OMG, we need to pass the budget in two days. What special interest can we use to hold the gov't hostage THIS time around?"
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    The hold up was Rand Paul, not Paul Ryan. They figure the new debt ceiling should be good for 2 years. The funding of the government is only through March 23rd.

    ...just kicking the can down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    The hold up was Rand Paul, not Paul Ryan. They figure the new debt ceiling should be good for 2 years. The funding of the government is only through March 23rd.

    ...just kicking the can down the road.
    I don't know what the hell I was thinking. You're right, it was Rand Paul, and it was only a CR. Whatever news service I was reading had it wrong, too. Gah.
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    And I was hoping to get out of my trip next week
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