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    Sorry if this is a double post, I didn't see it anywhere else. I just saw this article about a non NFA SBR from Franklin Armory. The article suggests a rifled shotgun but I don't see that happening. I'm confused how they did this. An ar with no rifling maybe?

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...br-like-thing/

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    Some of the comments are speculating that it would be a smoothbore AR with a rifled "choke" like device. I would think that would give it minute-of-semi-trailer kind of accuracy, but who knows?
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    Buttstock fixed and too short on LOP to be considered a proper buttstock?

    Will be interesting to see what it is.
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    I did a ton of searching and can't find the patent. I did read speculation that it's somehow it's all about the trigger.

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    It's binary for sure. You can see their big red sticker around the selector. I would think there would need to be more to it than that. Maybe they also modified the lower so that it can't accept a standard trigger?

    The speculation is that the definition of "rifle" includes the specific wording "pull" of the trigger but this doesn't just fire on the "pull"...?

    Here's my guess. It obviously has multiple firing modes from what we can see of the selector. If it was a standard binary trigger, the "semi" mode would allow firing one round per each "pull" of the trigger. That would meet the definition of "rifle". But what if in "semi" mode it didn't fire on the pull, but only on the release? (The like some old timers trap guns). Then on "binary" mode it would fire on release and then pull.

    Semi-mode:

    Press trigger - no bang
    Release trigger - bang

    Binary mode:

    Press trigger - no bang.
    Release trigger - bang
    Press again - bang

    Don't want to fire on the next release? Switch the selector, sort of like how you do on their current binary triggers.
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    Definitely something to do with the lower and trigger. Close look at the picture and you can see the upper and lower are cut different from a standard ar pattern to prevent the use of any regular ar part. Look closely at where the recievers junction at the buffer tube. Trigger plate marks semi and binary. Plus Franklin has been focused on trigger tech for some time. I'm gonna guess a resetting mechanism, similar too the three round burst, but something that avoids the definition of single pull of the trigger.

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    Think they'll come out with a binary trigger for pistols?
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    Actually, looking again, the reciever halfs look the same as their other regular sets. But in the interest of honesty, I'll leave my previous post. Still think it's some resetting feature, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Think they'll come out with a binary trigger for pistols?
    No, however be nice to see (rumor has it) them showing one at SS for the AK. I'd like to see one for a 10/22, would give me a reason to take the one out of the safe that's been there for 7-10 years .
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    The secret is in.

    It uses straight lands and groves. in other words, there is no rifling so it's not a rifle.

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...s-reformation/

    4-5" groups at 100 yards in a $2000 "non rifle"???

    No thanks. A pistol arm brace will continue work just fine.
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