Shooting at School in Parkland, Florida

[Gman]

The key players (FBI, Lib sheriff) look incompetent but not complicit.

The Sheriff looks guilty as sin and is a key player in the corruption that funnels Fed. money into the county by gaming the system and not reporting student criminal activity.

...but that's just my 2 cents.

[Irving]

I would agree with that. I believe he has close personal association with the school superintendent IIRC, so the underlying motive is mostly political, partially financial. The primary purpose for doing it is to create fake stats in a bad region, so the top school district officials / Sheriff can promote themselves as being a miracle cure guaranteeing re-election for both. On top of that, I'm sure there is some grants/funding/etc. that they gain from it. And all this is on top of the existing investigation for Nepotism, e.g. "appointing" (lets face it, it's not a hire) his family and top donators to the highest paying jobs in the S.O.

A lot of corruption is clearly pervasive in that department, even if their response could be, say, the result of exclusively hiring pusses.... which should have been noticed before this event.

This "faking stat" scheme isn't altogether unusual, in some ways it is pervasive in law enforcement - especially in metro places like Chicago and Detroit, and any other region using CompStats; they rely on the stats to push their re-election so they start forcibly making their departments alter the stats. I think there are some efforts to push them away from it. In some places (Chicago) it was so bad, there was even a case of decapitation in an abandoned warehouse, pieces of the body in a bag IIRC, that they ruled accidental or suicide (I forgot which) just to push homicide numbers low - a good percentage of clear homicides/rapes/etc. were also getting reclassified in such ways, anytime they thought family wouldn't be around to make too big of a stink. Anything that had any "doubt" would always get classified on the lowest offense. I wonder how many "children" aka teenagers were murdered in gang violence and re-classified as firearm "accidents" being two birds in a bush to their agenda.

Any time you tie any kind of crime stats coupled with law enforcement to re-election, it's just about a guarantee that you will fck up your county this way.

Now, even as corrupt as the leadership clearly is, I still have a hard time that multiple deputies could ever be standing by under orders 'to maximize murders" like "Kids are getting murdered, lets hope the number is higher if we wait". So I don't believe in that kind of conspiracy either (my earlier label with the link is somewhat sarcastic). However, if I were to guess, I think this is a result of a continuation of the policy to avoid charging any crimes at the school. If they believed in those few minutes that it could be fireworks, or maybe someone shooting from a vandalism perspective, or whatever; they didn't want to go in or have a LEO presence because it would increase the chance they would have to arrest someone and violate their special little 'greements to give free license to commit felonies. The deputy probably thought "nah, can't actually be kids getting murdered, whats the chances of that? maybe someone blasting up an empty room" and decided to stay out so the school could clean up whatever shit stain they wanted to polish.

That's my 2 cents and underlying suspicion at this point.

There is a lot of truth, I think, about the way crimes are reported, but I just can not realistically believe that the same people who manipulate stats for political gain, or even an artificially good policing record, would not want to squash a school shooter ASAP. That kind of crime is simply beyond the threshold of what can be swept under the rug, and any other action besides an immediate response will have the opposite affect of what they want.

[BigBear]

There is a lot of truth, I think, about the way crimes are reported, but I just can not realistically believe that the same people who manipulate stats for political gain, or even an artificially good policing record, would not want to squash a school shooter ASAP. That kind of crime is simply beyond the threshold of what can be swept under the rug, and any other action besides an immediate response will have the opposite affect of what they want.

I don't think it's too hard to believe that they did. In the world of multiple "expectations" and procedures on how to handle something to avoid going into litigation... regardless of training level I can see people freezing up, or flat out refusing to "do their job" in order to satisfy those above them that want it done a certain way. Or the whole "pass the buck" thing of waiting until the boss gets there. Seeing some of the vitriol out there and the way people treat each other... I can see it happening every day. So sad.

[Bailey Guns]

I just read yesterday the Idaho County Sheriff's Office is starting to train staff/teachers of some schools in towns near here to carry guns during school hours. The first group of armed teachers will consist of about 30 volunteers with more classes to follow.

[DOC]

I hope I never hear about another school shooting. But if I do I hope I hear about a teacher shooting a person that was hell bent on killing as many people as possible and ending up the only one dead. Knowing the news it might have already happened 10 times this month but they don't report it. So even if its just a quick sound byte before a commercial break and the weather it will be nice to hear.

[Gman]

Florida prosecutors seeking death penalty in school shooting

MIAMI (AP) — The former student charged with killing 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School last month will face the death penalty, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Works for me. Society doesn't need him. No need to pay for his care and feeding.

[DOC]

Florida prosecutors seeking death penalty in school shooting


Works for me. Society doesn't need him. No need to pay for his care and feeding.

Lets hope he gets shot trying to escape. Save years of appeals.

[cstone]

And if he is convicted and then sentenced to death, don't look for an execution in less than 20 years. Just think about how many attorneys will be well paid by the taxpayers during the process. I like to think of this as being the rape of the taxpayers after the death of the innocents.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/execlist.html

[KS63]

Lets hope he gets shot trying to escape. Save years of appeals.

More likely killed by a fellow Lifer and I’d have zero problems with that.

[Skip]

And if he is convicted and then sentenced to death, don't look for an execution in less than 20 years. Just think about how many attorneys will be well paid by the taxpayers during the process. I like to think of this as being the rape of the taxpayers after the death of the innocents.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/execlist.html

36 men with .308/.30-06s could have that list checked off by noon.

Let the other convicts tag, bag, and clean up the mess.